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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#98751: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:30:33 AM

Didn’t all the Infinity Gems break in the leadup to Secret Wars Again?

Aside from a jaunt through time did that have any effects?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98752: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:09:14 AM

In the guardians movies sure,the rest of the Cinematic Universe I'm not so sure
If something exists in one MCU movie, it exists in all MCU movies. That's the point of having a "Cinematic Universe."

Edited by alliterator on Mar 19th 2019 at 9:09:22 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98753: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:12:53 AM

[up][up]Zero. They were even remade later, presumably so T'Challa could fight God-Emperor Doom.

Not that I'm complaining.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98754: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:21:33 AM

One thing for sure, you CAN destroy infinity stones in the MCU. Question is if the destruction would last and if there are long term effects.

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#98755: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:22:38 AM

Well, when Wanda blew up the Mind Stone, everyone in the universe didn't suddenly turn into a vegetable or start hallucinating, so I think it's safe to say that they manipulate their respective forces rather than govern them.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 19th 2019 at 12:23:07 PM

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#98756: Mar 19th 2019 at 10:22:13 AM

...how do you destroy time? How would the universe even look like?

Would everything freeze over or turn into stone?

It was actually a plot point in the 616 that an overabundance of time travelers resulted in time itself breaking. This, uh, went largely unexplored and was mostly just used as a plot device to write time travel stories that don't conform to Marvel's traditional time travel rules.

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#98757: Mar 19th 2019 at 10:24:59 AM

I blame Bendis

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98758: Mar 19th 2019 at 10:27:11 AM

Also, destroying the Infinity Gems in the MU doesn't actually destroy those concepts. In Jonathan Hickman's New Avengers, all of the Gems except one get destroyed when Captain America prevents an Incursion and nothing catastrophic happens (aside from them not being able to stop another Incursion that is).

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#98759: Mar 19th 2019 at 10:30:54 AM

Granted, in the MU the Infinity Stones weren't formed from the universe itself. They're the remains of a god that committed suicide.

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#98760: Mar 19th 2019 at 10:33:53 AM

wild mass guessWanda breaking the Mind Stone actually did break everyone’s minds, and all the following films are hallucinations of the characters as they lie on the ground forever confused.wild mass guess

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:34:08 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98761: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:22:17 AM

Also, there's a seventh Infinity Gem called the Ego Gem and it was found in The Ultraverse after Marvel bought Malibu by a weird psychic vampire named Rune.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 19th 2019 at 11:22:30 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#98762: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:26:08 AM

That’s buck wild

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98763: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:29:23 AM

Yeah…I hope that they are built towards a secret invasion arc next. The infinity stones were great for the start, but it is time to move on.

Though, pretty clever of Marvel to name this first big arc. This way no matter what happens next, the first arc will always exist as one impressive story. Even though some movies weren't even directly related to it.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 19th 2019 at 11:30:01 AM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#98764: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:31:52 AM

Wonder if we'll get an entire Infinity Saga box set...

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98765: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:35:12 AM

[up] You might, I most likely won't...if there is a British edition I might buy it.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#98766: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:37:35 AM

I’d rather they avoid secret invasion. It has... gross undertones that can easily be messed up and distorted into antisemitic and anti immigrant propaganda. I really like the skrull refugee angle. They shouldn’t play into “there’s good refugees but also EVIL ones here to take over your home!”

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#98767: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:42:50 AM

Can the feelie that comes with the Infinity Saga box set be an Infinity Gauntlet complete with stones set in?

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#98768: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:52:45 AM

Random thought,if they ever had The Above all appear who do you think should play the role?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#98769: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:53:44 AM

I'd say Stan Lee, but that ship has sailed, alas.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98770: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:55:41 AM

Also, there's a seventh Infinity Gem called the Ego Gem and it was found in The Ultraverse after Marvel bought Malibu by a weird psychic vampire named Rune.

There's also an eighth, the Continuity Stone, that belongs to Deadpool.

@wisewillow: Civil War was also shit in the comics, and yet the adaptation is one of the best yet.

So was Old Man Logan, and the movie is in the running as the best superhero movie of all.

As for the Unfortunate Implications, that's nothing good writers and script can't fix. The shapeshifting aliens can be used as a variety of purposes in a story, after all.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 19th 2019 at 3:56:22 PM

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#98771: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:57:03 AM

> I'd say Stan Lee, but that ship has sailed, alas.

Kevin Feige then?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98772: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:57:16 AM

That really depends on how you deal with the story...it could be used to show the difference between refugees and people who actually want to do you harm. It can even show that refugees can be pretty helpful to fight those people who actually want to do you harm. You can also use it to explore what an impact it has to destabilize any society.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 19th 2019 at 11:58:11 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98773: Mar 19th 2019 at 11:59:20 AM

[up][up][up] I thought the Old Man Logan comic was well-received?

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Lost in Space
#98774: Mar 19th 2019 at 12:00:56 PM

I feel like the opportunity to play the Secret Invasion straight was foiled by Captain Marvel's plot. Given how it treats the Skrulls there, them having been secretly replacing people on Earth for the past twenty years would not only be an enormous retcon for Phase 1-3 in general but completely negate the moral message of CM.

It was bad enough for continuity when Winter Soldier showed that HYDRA had already infiltrated SHIELD during The Avengers.

This is not to say that the Kree-Skrull war might not put in another appearance, but it would need to be a fresh one from the perspective of the MCU.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 19th 2019 at 3:04:21 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#98775: Mar 19th 2019 at 12:02:47 PM

I think we're bound to see more of the Kree and Skrull war,maybe even in the Next Guardians of the Galaxy movie

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