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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#98726: Mar 18th 2019 at 10:28:01 PM

Just cast him and then never explain it

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98727: Mar 19th 2019 at 1:22:31 AM

Frankly I don't think that having him in multiple franchises is the issue here. The Issue is more his age. If they ever cast the role, Marvel will want someone younger who will most likely be around for at least the next ten years.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98728: Mar 19th 2019 at 1:24:52 AM

I don't get it. Can someone explain, please?
Are you talking about the Men in Black joke I made? It's because Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson are both going to be in that film, too, since they played off each other so well in Thor: Ragnarok. And a "neuralyzer" is a device in the MIB films that erases people's memories, so that nobody freaks out that aliens exist.

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#98729: Mar 19th 2019 at 3:39:14 AM

Speaking of Men in Black, wasn't that a Marvel comic at one point?

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98730: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:53:23 AM

[up][up]D'oh!

In my defense, last time I watched MIB I was nine.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98731: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:44:59 AM

Speaking of Men in Black, wasn't that a Marvel comic at one point?
It was actually Malibu comic. And it was really dark, too. Of course, then Marvel bought Malibu comics, so Marvel got the rights to publish any Men in Black comics. So when the movie came out, they did end up publishing some MIB comics of their own.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#98732: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:00:41 AM

I got mixed feelings on that comic. On the one hand, I do like it better when the MIB are good guys rather than actively violent (I mean, we have enough shady morally dubious organizations in fiction as it is). On the other hand, I feel it'd have been fun if the movie MIB dealt with all supernatural things like they did in the comics rather than just aliens.

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#98734: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:21:19 AM

Makes sense. It also strongly implies that the Infinity Stones will be taken out of the picture after Endgame, one way or another.

I wonder about something: it has been stated that Captain Marvel will have limitations during the film to prevent her from singlehandedly solving the plot. Could that be because her powers derive from the Space Stone, and Thanos has it?

Also, if the Stones are destroyed or depowered in some fashion, would that permanently affect characters like Carol and Wanda, who were empowered by them to begin with? Wanda didn't die or dissolve or anything like that when she destroyed the Mind Stone, of course, but neither did we see her do anything afterwards.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:24:53 AM

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#98735: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:24:04 AM

> Even the Power Infinite has limits. Kill half the universe? Easy. Make JJ shut up? Not gonna happen.

He'd blame the snap entirely on spiderman

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#98736: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:26:26 AM

[up][up]I'm thinking we might get the Illuminati (we already have three of them) and each one takes and hides an Infinity Stone away from the others.

Though I don't know who would take the other three.

Edited by LordVatek on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:32:12 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98737: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:27:26 AM

Captain Marvel will be limited enough by facing someone who has the power of six stones instead of part of the power of one.

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#98738: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:31:59 AM

[up] Well, yeah, it would make no sense for her to be stronger than Thanos + Gauntlet in a direct confrontation. I'm just going by what's been publicly stated. If this climaxes with the most powerful Avengers all focusing beams of energy on Thanos to overwhelm him, I'll feel a bit cheated, since that's exactly how Age of Ultron ended.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:33:10 AM

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#98739: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:33:58 AM

He'd blame the snap entirely on spiderman

Without question, Jameson has already typed up a front-page article about Spider-Man interfering with the New York fight. Iron Man had everything under control and also some dude in a cape was there, but then Spider-Man showed up and screwed everything up. Did you see him dangling by a webstrand, ineffectually trying to tug the cape guy away? Completely unprofessional. And embarrassing.

Spider-Man should have left it to the professionals, he didn't, and now half of the planet is dead. Because he had to get in Iron Man's way and ruin everything. Spider-Man is a greater threat to this planet than the aliens that attacked New York a decade ago. (Do we know anything about that, by the way? Connections between this invasion and that one? Nothing? Okay.) DOESN'T MATTER. What matters is that Spider-Man doomed us all.

...

Meanwhile, Aunt May has been frantically trying to get a hold of Happy Hogan and find out why Peter never came home and if anyone actually saw him turn to dust like so many people. He has no answers for her.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 19th 2019 at 8:35:06 AM

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#98740: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:34:47 AM

That's just not nice. Too bad JJJ does not [yet] canonically exist in the MCU.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98741: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:45:34 AM

Oh god,imagine if Endgame was his introduction,the snap turns him from from media boss to politician,with fewer people around there's less opposition and he fills gap left by by others

A reality where JJJ is a demagogue is not fun one for anyone

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#98742: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:54:19 AM

Also, if the Stones are destroyed or depowered in some fashion, would that permanently affect characters like Carol and Wanda, who were empowered by them to begin with? Wanda didn't die or dissolve or anything like that when she destroyed the Mind Stone, of course, but neither did we see her do anything afterwards.

Honestly, I doubt it? Cuz I believe the stones are definitely gonna be depowered or destroyed, but I can't see Carol or Wanda losing their powers permanently (and I sure hope they don't!). Also I imagine their physiologies are permanently altered by the stones anyway. I don't really see the destruction of the stones undoing that.

Also, I kinda doubt the climax of the movie will be about them defeating Thanos anyway. The snap is done already. And even if they manage to get the Infinity Gauntlet off of Thanos after defeating him, will it even work again? I don't really think there will be another threat introduced or anything, but I guess that's still possible also. (shrug)

Meanwhile, Aunt May has been frantically trying to get a hold of Happy Hogan and find out why Peter never came home and if anyone actually saw him turn to dust like so many people. He has no answers for her.

OUCH, dude!

Edited by DeathsApprentice on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:55:18 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98743: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:54:36 AM

Charting with Dan has tackled the whole fake news around Captain Marvel's box office. There is a really great speech at the end I think we all should remember.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#98744: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:59:37 AM

Yeah, I assume anybody with stone-granted powers will get to keep it. They probably wouldn't have given Carol power that way if they were planning that

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98745: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:15:06 AM

I don't think that you can truly destroy the stones, unless you find someone who has infinity stone powers for each of them. And even THAN I am not sure if they won't reconstruct eventually.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98746: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:19:02 AM

In the comics the Living Tribunal deactivated the Stones (called "gems" there), maybe something similar will happen in Endgame?

I mean, the Watchers exist in the MCU.

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Love is Love is Love
#98747: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:21:16 AM

And of course in Regular Marvel, if you destroy a stone, that destroys the aspect of the Universe it embodies.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98748: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:24:02 AM

...how do you destroy time? How would the universe even look like?

Would everything freeze over or turn into stone?

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#98749: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:27:45 AM

I imagine it would be like a dragon break in The Elder Scrolls, where the linear progression of events and the laws of cause and effect cease to exist, children give birth to their fathers, wars are simultaneously won, lost, and prevented through diplomacy, etc.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98750: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:30:18 AM

> the Watchers exist in the MCU.

In the guardians movies sure,the rest of the Cinematic Universe I'm not so sure

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