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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#98626: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:16:07 PM

I add my own desire for the Black Widow movie being a Bond Style spy movie with a LOT of fun inserted into it.

... Okay I know I already said plenty of times I thought a Black Widow movie would be pointless in my opinion, but if it turns out to be that, I could actually get behind it.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#98627: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:27:26 PM

They're mentioned a Vision and Scarlet Witch show is getting made. Depending on when it takes place, maybe they might make Billy and Tommy actually their kids.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#98628: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:28:11 PM

[up]I mean would that work? Like, biologically?

Edited by LordVatek on Mar 17th 2019 at 5:28:41 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#98629: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:29:44 PM

Wait, thinking it over, it wouldn't work because the MCU stories roughly follow Real Time so that means if they were born in 2020 they wouldn't be usable as teen heroes until the 2030s. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 17th 2019 at 2:30:15 AM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#98630: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:29:57 PM

[up]Didn't stop them in the comic :p

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98631: Mar 17th 2019 at 2:44:22 PM

I somehow doubt that Disney is quite ready to go all gay just yet...the f... Chinese and Russian Market will make them think twice.

Btw. Weekend Box office is in and Captain Marvel managed to drop less than 55%. It has now made $760 Million worldwide and is about to move past Got G, which would put it in the top ten of the highest grossing Marvel movies. I guess it is way on track to hit a billion...either that or it become the first Marvel movie in the 900 million margin (honestly, what is it with the huge gab there? It is like Superhero movies are afraid to land in this margin).

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#98632: Mar 17th 2019 at 3:25:59 PM

As with Runaways, Young Avengers seems like the kind of property they'd prefer to restrict to TV. Part of the appeal is in the setup, which might take up a lot of time on the big screen.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#98633: Mar 17th 2019 at 3:29:50 PM

I absolutely hate the Young Avengers (plz don't kill me). So I wouldn't really be up in the air about a movie about them.

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#98634: Mar 17th 2019 at 3:53:51 PM

To get back to the James Gunn thing for a moment, something odd I've noticed:

Does it seem weird to anyone that no one in the Marvel / Guardians cast has publicly commented on Gunn's reinstatement?

There's Gunn's statement itself, his brother's message about it, Karen Gillan posted "We are Groot" on Twitter, and Pom Klementieff and Michael Rooker made vague noises about it on Instagram, but other than that, dead silence

You'd think they'd be dancing in the streets about it

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98635: Mar 17th 2019 at 3:55:11 PM

I don't care either way about the Young Avengers, so no opinions there.

I would, however, really like if Juggernaut was used in a disaster movie involving the X-Men. Fits the character perfectly, don't you think?

[up]Maybe they're just trying to be graceful about it?

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 17th 2019 at 7:55:49 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98636: Mar 17th 2019 at 4:03:29 PM

It’s pretth much the end of OG Avengers next month.

They are gonna be introducing the next-gen & what’s better than an Avengers team that starts with “Young” after all.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98637: Mar 17th 2019 at 4:07:44 PM

An Avengers team that starts with "New?

Or "East Coast"?

Or "Next"?

Or "Migthy"?

Or "Uncanny"?

Or "Secret"?

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#98638: Mar 17th 2019 at 4:11:51 PM

Not to forget Dark.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98639: Mar 17th 2019 at 4:13:54 PM

The Dark Avengers are a Black OP’s team headed by Norman fucking Osborn though.

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#98640: Mar 17th 2019 at 4:49:06 PM

Who here in this thread hasn't seen Captain Marvel? Because the last page had a pretty big spoiler being thrown around, and anyone could've figured out what the spoiler was through context clues in the text around it.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#98641: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:07:09 PM

I like the Allen Heinberg incarnation of Young Avengers a lot more than the Kieron Gillen version.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98642: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:08:47 PM

[up] Which one had the more detailed & cooler costumes?

Also my knowledge of Billy & Teddy is solely from the New Avengers series by Al Ewing.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 17th 2019 at 5:08:58 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98643: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:10:37 PM

> Who here in this thread hasn't seen Captain Marvel?

-raises hand-

Though I dont care about S P O I L I E RS

I usually wait till its on DVD or digital download,I never saw infinity war in the theater either

Edited by Ultimatum on Mar 17th 2019 at 12:11:18 PM

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#98644: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:16:20 PM

[up][up] Probably Heinberg's? Mckelvie's art did seem a bit stiff IMO. Though I don't consider those designs particularly complicated either.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#98645: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:21:52 PM

I haven't seen Captain Marvel yet. Plan on doing it this week.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98646: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:26:43 PM

[up][up] I just looked at the Young Avengers character pages & I noticed some of their current costumes are relatively simpler in design than their original outfits.

For example Kate’s first outfit there had a scarf, v-tails, & her shooting arm looks more armored or segmented.

Now she just wears a simple purple jumpsuit with her shooting arm covered by simple cloth.

That’s more what I mean.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 17th 2019 at 6:02:36 AM

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#98647: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:51:43 PM

Oh yeah. I do think that Kate and Billy's costumes took a serious downgrade in the process. Even if they're debatably more practical they're awfully generic, on top of the art style itself lacking real flair.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#98648: Mar 17th 2019 at 5:58:29 PM

I'm all the way here for a Young Avengers movie. For one, the idea of stories about people who have now grown up or are growing up inside of the universe the rest of the characters have created is awesome. Using the characters we already have, like Stature / Stinger (Cassie Lang), could fit in if they so choose like Amadeus Cho or even Kid Loki, or ones we almost certainly will be getting eventually like Kamala Khan.

It'd also be interesting if a Young Avengers movie was in part a composite with Avengers Academy. That was such an interesting idea, and the characters inside were - at least in theory - pretty interesting.

Not Spidey, though. Because I want him to be part of a New Avengers (Spider-Man, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Dr. Strange, Wolverine) adaptation a few years down the line.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98649: Mar 17th 2019 at 6:07:33 PM

[up][up] Yeah looking at the images, its rather lacking in flash & chutzpah.

[up] Shit count me in on Avengers Academy. [tup]

They might finally bring back Mettle if he's in a movie.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#98650: Mar 17th 2019 at 6:24:05 PM

Kate’s been due an outfit upgrade for ages. One without a bunch of pointless holes.

On the other hand, nearly all of McKelvie’s outfits for America were great. Marvel Rising needs to include more of them besides the usual jacket.


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