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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#98276: Mar 14th 2019 at 6:05:54 AM

HOLY CRAP GUYS.

NOW I'M FUCKING HYPED.

Edit: What a pagetopper, huh.

Edited by Nightwire on Mar 14th 2019 at 6:06:21 AM

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#98277: Mar 14th 2019 at 6:19:33 AM

Me before seeing the trailer: you know, I don't think I care about the OG Avengers anymore. Me, after seeing the trailer: (crying) Steeeeve, Thor!

Also I love that Carol and Thor immediately get along haha.

And is that girl Clint is teaching archery to Kate?

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#98278: Mar 14th 2019 at 6:25:29 AM

My comments on that trailer:

1. Would Carol only appearing at the end of the trailer be that to make sure people who have yet to touch her movie be spoiled?

2. Why did Thor get a flashback to his origin movie? I mean, I get that Tony and Steve had to because one of them or both might bite it for keeps but why Thor? I mean, I can understand somewhat that him having to die is to also signify the end of the current chapter in the MCU as a whole after this upcoming movie but other than that, have we heard something about Chris Hemworth announcing that he wishes to leave the MCU?

Edited by HallowHawk on Mar 14th 2019 at 9:25:43 PM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#98279: Mar 14th 2019 at 6:46:46 AM

So they officially revealed the costumes that keep getting leaked

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#98280: Mar 14th 2019 at 7:28:09 AM

Avenger spacesuits

Hey I liked the broken logo pulling itself together

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 14th 2019 at 10:28:36 AM

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#98281: Mar 14th 2019 at 7:45:55 AM

[up]x4 I think that's his daughter. That said, is there a precedence in the comic for Kate being Clint's daughter?

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#98282: Mar 14th 2019 at 7:48:23 AM

No, comics Kate Bishop is the daughter of a wealthy family. She only takes after Clint in a role model fashion. That said, there's nothing stopping the adaptation from making her "Kate Barton". That's the magic of adaptation.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#98283: Mar 14th 2019 at 7:50:29 AM

[up][up] Hmm, you're probably right. And Kate isn't Clint's daughter in the comics, and it'd probably change quite a bit to make her Clint's daughter in the MCU. Then again, that doesn't mean they can't make it so in the MCU.

Edit: Oh lol, [nja]'d

Edited by DeathsApprentice on Mar 14th 2019 at 10:51:05 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#98284: Mar 14th 2019 at 7:50:39 AM

No I don’t think so

In 616 she’s entirely unrelated except he saved her from kidnappers when she was a child and in Ultimate she was the child of two Hydra fanatics because Bendis hates me personally. Dunno about any other universes

As far as I know mainstream Clint has never managed to have children because his various relationships tend to implode and Black Widow had all his ultimate children killed because Mark Millar is my enemy

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98285: Mar 14th 2019 at 7:53:09 AM

Well, that was a neat little trailer.

But y'know, I haven't really felt hyped for a Marvel film since the Thor:Ragnarok trailer. Maybe I should give a little break.

BTW, yeah, that was just Stormbreaker in a different angle.

[up]x3 Wait, what's the name of Clint's dautgher in Ao U?

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 14th 2019 at 11:53:23 AM

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Lost in Space
#98286: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:00:29 AM

[up] Your feelings are completely valid. What has me, personally, so hyped about Endgame is that it's the culmination of all of the character and story arcs that we've been building over the past 11 years. No matter how much superhero fatigue I might be feeling, I must watch this film to see where it all ends, because I genuinely care about all of these characters. Marvel has earned that from me.

Phase 4 may or may not hook me in: I'm keeping an open mind. But Endgame owns my soul.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 14th 2019 at 11:02:39 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#98287: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:02:08 AM

[up][up] Lila

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98288: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:06:56 AM

Were the names of the older children mentioned in Age of Ultron? Because considering that Clint's family was "in hiding" so to speak, her name actually could be Kate Bishop instead of Barton. And even if she was named, they can always say that Kate is her second name or something like that. In any case, does anyone else get the impression that they sneaky built up towards young Avengers? We already have two possible candidates.

[up] Okay, that answers the question...

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 14th 2019 at 8:13:14 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#98289: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:10:25 AM

Cooper, Lila, and Nathaniel Pietro

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98290: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:17:36 AM

@Fighteer: Yeah, after Endgame I'm gonna give the franchise a little rest before jumping on board again.

Familiarity breeds contempt, after all.

Though saying this the day after three minority-led movies were announced doesn't paint me in the best light, I'll tell you that much.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#98291: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:20:45 AM

I REALLY need to catch up on Ant-Man and the Wasp and Captain Marvel. I'm sure the former's a blast, but that stinger...

I'm just not ready for this, you guys...

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#98292: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:24:26 AM

So far as superhero fatigue goes, I've been hearing people talking about this since Iron Man 3. On an individual level, everyone gets sick of things or needs a break from time to time. On the large scale, however, it's never really panned out as a major market influence.

I think, if Wonder Woman and Aquaman's box office figures are anything to go by, that film audiences are still not getting tired of seeing superheroes on the big screen. Not by a longshot. Those two films are uninfluenced by the build to Avengers: Endgame and still sold like gangbusters.

I think superhero films are going to be around until the heat death of the universe. Especially now that DC's finally jumped onboard the "How to not make your movies suck balls" bandwagon.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 14th 2019 at 9:25:27 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98293: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:27:23 AM

After Endgame there is Spiderman Far from home, maybe Ao S and Cloak and Dagger and Jessica Jones if you are into it, and after this there will be a long stretch of no new MCU content at all (unless naturally something pops up at the Streaming service this year).

I have the feeling that once the MCU comes back, we will be starved for new content.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98294: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:27:28 AM

Westerns dominated cinema for what, nearly 50 years? I'd say we have another 3 solid decades ahead of us before audiences really do get tired.

BTW, the usual suspects are seen in the comments section of the trailer. I'm sure at this point no elaboration is needed.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 14th 2019 at 12:28:11 PM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98295: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:29:00 AM

I've managed to avoid superhero fatigue simply by not feeling compelled to watch every goddamn movie.

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fuckANN
#98296: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:31:42 AM

I honestly think that after FFH the MCU should take a brief hiatus... They’ve earned it

You're going to pay a price for every bloody thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price.
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#98297: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:32:32 AM

I've avoided it by just enjoying the movies. I like movies. I like superhero movies. I don't see either of those things changing.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98298: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:40:35 AM

Yeah...I don't watch every movie either, I don't even watch every MCU movies necessarily in theatres.

Regarding the western: During the heyday of Western, there were way, way more than the ten to twenty Superhero movies we get each year released.

I don't think that the audience in general will get tired of Superhero movies anytime soon - provided that they keep delivering. In a way, the MCU is the longest running serial ever, and next to nobody is ready to let go of it just yet.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#98299: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:50:48 AM

I have mixed feelings about them possibly adapting Kate because Clint being so watered down from his comics version means they probably won’t adapt Matt Fractions’s Hawkeye. And I wanted Lana Condor in the part. tongue

What we see in the trailer matches up with what people were reporting was shown in the footage to Disney stockholders. Which claimed

    spoilers 
Captain Marvel rescues Nebula and Tony aboard the stranded Benatar, takes it to Earth, and the Avengers repair and board it to head to a planet where they last traced Thanos’s energy signature.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 14th 2019 at 8:53:20 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98300: Mar 14th 2019 at 8:57:51 AM

[up]Well that would explain Tony and Nebula being in the space suit power walk scene - Also how she pulls a Batman in CM's credits scene.

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