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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98201: Mar 13th 2019 at 8:28:51 AM

[up] He is usually pretty high on the list of characters people want to see. No wonder, outside of the Fox properties he is basically the last of the "big" characters left.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#98202: Mar 13th 2019 at 8:30:43 AM

NVM.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 13th 2019 at 11:31:05 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98203: Mar 13th 2019 at 8:31:04 AM

I feel like with his similarities to Aquaman he should have been added to cinematic universe before DC made their movie,if he gets added people are immeidately going to be critical because it just so happens DC also has a superhero who lives underwater and talks to fish

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98204: Mar 13th 2019 at 8:37:54 AM

Depends on how they do it. If they add him as antagonist, it will be different enough, I think.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98205: Mar 13th 2019 at 8:47:37 AM

"Oh he's Aquaman but hes a bad guy,lame copycats!"

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98206: Mar 13th 2019 at 8:50:20 AM

Which would be quite funny considering that Marvel often gets accused of stealing ideas from DC, including creating Thanos in reaction to Darkside, and with Namor, it was actually the other way around, he came first, Aquaman later.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#98207: Mar 13th 2019 at 8:50:59 AM

Maybe make him an antagonist of a Black Panther sequel. I think there was an Atlantis vs Wakanda arc in the comics. They could do a lot of creative stuff with that that would sufficiently distinguish the character from Aquaman

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#98208: Mar 13th 2019 at 9:07:11 AM

Namor would be an interesting addition in that he can be allied with or antagonistic to pretty much anyone depending on the circumstances and his mood.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#98209: Mar 13th 2019 at 9:15:21 AM

Ah, yes, I heard about the theory that Disney lied about Captain Marvel's box office. Riiiiiight. What interest would they have to do that exactly? Even if the movie was actually failing, it wouldn't magically make people go see the movie. And how would Disney do that without immediately being found out? Then again, these are the same people who think White males are the majority of the fans and target audience (yeah I already found two guys who insisted it was the case to me).

And I would personally not mind seeing Namor join the MCU.

Edited by Theokal3 on Mar 13th 2019 at 5:19:11 PM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#98210: Mar 13th 2019 at 10:22:35 AM

Some people operate on the assumption that if the facts don't support your conclusion, then it must be the facts that are wrong.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#98211: Mar 13th 2019 at 11:34:34 AM

Marvel’s “Shang-Chi” movie will be directed by Destin Daniel Cretton.

He is currently directing Just Mercy, which stars Brie Larson and Michael B. Jordan.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 13th 2019 at 11:34:53 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#98213: Mar 13th 2019 at 11:39:14 AM

"Brie Larson and Michael B Jordan"

Keeping it in the family, are we?

[down] Higher, further, faster baby.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 13th 2019 at 2:41:06 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#98214: Mar 13th 2019 at 11:39:18 AM

Speaking of Captain Marvel's box office, in the real world note  it has just officially crossed half a billion worldwide.

Edited by Falrinn on Mar 13th 2019 at 2:40:38 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98215: Mar 13th 2019 at 11:43:40 AM

I once heard something say something about Larson's "insidious agenda".

What the fuck, do they not hear how much they sound like cartoon characters? [lol]

And that was on animenewsnetwork on article about how Sailor Moon was a childhood inspiration to Larson. The fucking Larson hate is everywhere.

Thank God the mods removed the dumbshit & I did my part by reporting said dumbshit. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 13th 2019 at 11:53:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#98216: Mar 13th 2019 at 11:46:21 AM

You can't really take the comment trolls seriously. Sure, they may believe what they are saying, but they are the very definition of a Vocal Minority given an inflated media presence by their persistence and volume. Reporting them for mod removal is the correct thing to do.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 13th 2019 at 2:46:37 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#98217: Mar 13th 2019 at 11:51:20 AM

The funniest thing about Shang-Chi is that I imagine his plot will be very similar to Captain Marvel's, knowing his origin story.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#98218: Mar 13th 2019 at 11:59:59 AM

"Brie Larson and Michael B Jordan"

Keeping it in the family, are we?

Captain Marvel cameo confirmed.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98219: Mar 13th 2019 at 12:03:13 PM

So, newest nonsense from Cosmicbooknews: Supposedly Disney lied about the box office numbers of Captain Marvel.
They do realize that Disney isn't the one that reveals that box office numbers, right? No, wait, they are idiots, never mind.

Marvel's 'Shang-Chi' Sets Director Destin Daniel Cretton
Nice! I'm glad that Marvel is getting all these diverse directors, although I am slightly worried about the fact that they appear to be only getting them for the "diverse" movies. Wait, never mind, they got Chloe Zhao to direct Eternals, that's usually filled with white people (although I hope they do go with a more diverse cast).

And considering that Cretton has already directed Brie Larson in three films, I hope that they include a Captain Marvel cameo in Shang-Chi, too. Maybe a post-credits scene or something.

So now the films we have that are (kind of) confirmed for Phase 4:

  • Spider-Man: Far From Home
  • Black Widow (directed by Cate Shortland)
  • The Eternals (directed by Chloe Zhao)
  • Shang-Chi (directed by Destin Daniel Cretton)

Looking at the slate of new films, it's nice that Marvel really is going for diverse directors.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 13th 2019 at 12:04:38 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#98220: Mar 13th 2019 at 12:49:52 PM

They're branching out in general, which they really should have done full force earlier but it's cool they're fully committing to it now. It's basically an all new lineup, with the only characters who've really been around getting something new being the Guardians.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98221: Mar 13th 2019 at 12:53:15 PM

Well, we don't know what sequels are getting made. I'm betting we're going to get Black Panther 2, Doctor Strange 2, and Captain Marvel 2 out within the next four years. Possibly another Ant-Man movie, too, since Ant-Man and the Wasp did pretty good.

There hasn't been an Iron Man movie since Iron Man 3, so I suspect that each character will get three films (as main character — they can still show up in other films) and that's it. Although I really do wish we could get a film of Thor establishing Asgard on Earth, like Thor: Ragnarok teased. That was an awesome storyline in the comics.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 13th 2019 at 12:53:26 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#98222: Mar 13th 2019 at 12:54:59 PM

Yeah, but those guys are still recent.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98223: Mar 13th 2019 at 1:03:20 PM

[up][up]Pass on that duty to Valkyrie.

I mean, seeing the badass Lady Drunk having to play ruler and diplomat should result in quite a few silly moments.

Or just use Teen Idol!Loki from the Agent of Asgard comic, that one would be nice, too.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#98224: Mar 13th 2019 at 1:27:25 PM

Namor being involved in Dr. Strange 2 is a very odd idea, since what little we've heard of the plot is that it's centered around the Dream Dimension. I'm curious how the ruler of Atlantis ties into the realm of dreams.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#98225: Mar 13th 2019 at 1:40:47 PM

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