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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98151: Mar 12th 2019 at 3:33:12 PM

i feel like Endgame is being released too soon,I'm not ready!

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98152: Mar 12th 2019 at 3:40:33 PM

What was the destiny quote again?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98153: Mar 12th 2019 at 3:58:22 PM

[up][up][up] The weekend of 3/15/19-3/17/19, just so we don't have any confusion.

[up] "I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right...yet to fail nonetheless. It's frightening, turns the legs to jelly. But I ask you, to what end? Dread it...Run from it....Destiny arrives all the same. And now, it's here. Or should I say...I am."

Edited by alliterator on Mar 12th 2019 at 4:04:04 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#98154: Mar 12th 2019 at 4:01:55 PM

No, it’s the weekend of 3/15/19-3/17/19 for Captain Marvel.

Even more confusion.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98155: Mar 12th 2019 at 4:04:21 PM

I don't know what you are talking about.

[whistles innocently]

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98156: Mar 12th 2019 at 4:04:48 PM

[up]x4 I could've sworn you were talking about the game.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 12th 2019 at 8:05:07 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98157: Mar 12th 2019 at 4:07:01 PM

[up][up][up][up] There we go.

@Ultimatum “Dread it...Run from it....Destiny arrives all the same”.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#98159: Mar 12th 2019 at 4:20:15 PM

For what it's there's also Steve is Cap but never gets trapped in the ice.

I guess what if Abomination joined the Avengers (it's established somewhere that some higher-ups wanted him instead of Hulk), possibly stretched out to a more fully-fleged Dark Avengers?

I kind of feel like I'm less hyped for Endgame than I was for Infinity War

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98160: Mar 12th 2019 at 4:23:39 PM

Endgame has a lot of to pull off for it to be a satisfying conclusion to Infinity War

If it cant pull it off,then well it's going to be called Game Over

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98161: Mar 12th 2019 at 4:34:07 PM

Honestly, Captain Marvel made me even more hyped for Endgame than I already was. Well played Marvel....

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#98162: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:22:14 PM

And as for me, I wasn't super hyped for Endgame for reasons I'm not entirely clear of. But then I watched Captain Marvel and now? Endgame can't come soon enough, I am so hyped for it!

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#98163: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:22:43 PM

Re: What if the government had gotten Tony's Iron Man technology in Iron Man 2?

Weren't those people in the government, people from Hydra in disguise? If so, that would have been very bad.

My "What If?" would be what if Coulson actually had been a Hydra agent as originally planned?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98164: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:25:53 PM

What if the Avengers had opposed the Sokovia Accords together? What if they had all followed it?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#98165: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:50:52 PM

What if Steve never took the serum to become Cap? What if Bucky never fell from the train? What if Cameron Klein pressed the button? What if T'Chaka never killed N'Jobu? What if Odin told Thor about Hela?

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#98166: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:55:41 PM

What if the Marvel Cinematic Universe flopped and the DC Cinematic Universe becomes the prime example for Cinematic Universes?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#98167: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:55:49 PM

What if the Avengers had opposed the Sokovia Accords together? What if they had all followed it?

That's a very interesting thought. The second one especially would have mitigated a lot of the issues of Cap's actions in Civil War (as he would have been an official agent of the government and could have had official authority to take Bucky in).

It would have avoided the Airport fight too I think, so the team might have been together when Zemo did his reveal.

The first one would have been harder, because they'd have no ability to move freely at all.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98168: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:56:38 PM

[up]x3 First one is easy to guess: he'd probably die early and the East Coast of the US would be turned into one big-ass glass floor.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 12th 2019 at 9:56:55 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98169: Mar 12th 2019 at 5:59:02 PM

What if Loki hadn't lied to Thor about Odin dying? What if Nebula had succeeded in killing Thanos?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#98170: Mar 12th 2019 at 6:08:49 PM

What if Hawkeye just decided to not show up for work in Avengers 1 and missed the boat on the whole thing?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#98171: Mar 12th 2019 at 6:10:12 PM

What if Pepper had taken the armor and reined in Tony (and subsequently joined him against Whiplash) in IM 2, rather than Rhodey?

What if Cap had been able to land the HYDRA bomber safely?

What if Cap had found Bucky right away?

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98172: Mar 12th 2019 at 6:10:42 PM

What if the Avengers had opposed the Sokovia Accords together? What if they had all followed it?

he airport fight wouldn’t have happened, and there would be several people around to restrain Tony when Zeno shows him the video. T’challa’s character development would be the biggest variable.

Zemo’s plot is entirely divorced from the Accords - they merely provide a convenient opportunity to put it in motion.

Edit: [nja]’d by people who said it better than me

Edited by TheAirman on Mar 12th 2019 at 8:12:28 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98173: Mar 12th 2019 at 6:13:41 PM

What if Shield had managed to capture the Winter Soldier earlier? What if Hydra guy had given Zemo the information he wanted, so he never framed Bucky? What if Cap had told Tony about his parents?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98174: Mar 12th 2019 at 6:17:07 PM

What if Scott Lang never learned to do magic tricks?

What if Hank Pym went into the angry clowning business?

What if Ghost was born with an egghead like her father?

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 12th 2019 at 6:17:56 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#98175: Mar 12th 2019 at 6:18:49 PM

What if Shield had managed to capture the Winter Soldier earlier? What if Hydra guy had given Zemo the information he wanted, so he never framed Bucky? What if Cap had told Tony about his parents?

For the first one, it would have prevented Zemo from using him as a scapegoat for the bombing and left him with less resources with which to find the information, but since Shield was technically defunct at that time (though only officially) that one's off the table.

With number two, he'd have gotten to his plan much more easily since there would have been no need to frame Bucky (then again, maybe he still would have done it to lure the latter out).

If Cap had told Tony, Tony would have been rightfully pissed, but likely wouldn't have flown into a rage like he did because he'd have had time to deal with it rather than having it thrown in his face in the heat of the moment like what happened. He'd be very on board for catching Bucky though.

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