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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

lvthn13 Since: Dec, 2009
#98076: Mar 11th 2019 at 5:54:20 PM

if we had bothered to shut down stuff like 4chan early, perhaps they wouldn't have the reach they have now.

I can't say that the whole idea of silencing people you disagree with sits well with me. Not even the scummiest of scumbags, not 4chan, not Nazis, nobody. So long as those idiots are free to vent their worthless words into the wind, my right to free speech remains utterly beyond doubt. The whole "punch a Nazi" thing seems exactly as unamerican to me as being a Nazi.

Obviously illegal activity should be dealt with, such as 4chan's reputation for illegal porn. But that's a separate matter from what everyone here deems "trolling" - no, it's just stupid people with stupid opinions, which they are entitled to, as much as you are yours.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#98077: Mar 11th 2019 at 5:54:47 PM

I saw the feminist themes quite clearly as well, but I didn't think they dominated the movie or interfered with my enjoyment of it. Quite the contrary: it was nice to see Carol shoving off the patronizing "women should think, not feel" dogma.

[up] That particular conversation goes well beyond this thread, and indeed we have at least one topic in OTC for it. Suffice it to say that certain types of speech are beyond what we consider normal discourse, and should be banned in public areas.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 11th 2019 at 8:55:50 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98078: Mar 11th 2019 at 5:55:01 PM

[up][up][up][up] Okay, let me put it a different way: Captain Marvel is several magnitudes more feminist than the Alien series.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 11th 2019 at 5:56:04 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98079: Mar 11th 2019 at 5:55:39 PM

Do not think, be like water.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98080: Mar 11th 2019 at 5:57:41 PM

but water evaporates!

Also speaking of Alien, Smithy vs Goose

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98081: Mar 11th 2019 at 5:59:20 PM

[up] Exactly.

Evaporate like water.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98082: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:02:06 PM

but then the Water becomes air!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98084: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:03:19 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] Oh, then we are on the same page.

Honestly, it was so obvious to me, but I guess you need to have some awareness about how sexism works to see and understand what the movie is doing.

But I guess we run into the danger to go too spoilery so...

looks like the box office will be adjusted up once the final numbers are in.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 11th 2019 at 6:05:00 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98085: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:03:58 PM

> What are you two smoking?

Leaves

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98086: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:10:35 PM

What part of be like water don't you understand?

If water becomes air then become air.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#98087: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:12:57 PM

Ahem.

Even some pundits are getting into the fun. Paul Krugman's NYT column published a piece today called "The Power of Petty Personal Rage", using Captain Marvel to illustrate how the right-wing in America today is dominated almost entirely by petty rage over tiny slights that seem, to them, to diminish their personal power as white males.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#98088: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:22:16 PM

The whole "punch a Nazi" thing seems exactly as unamerican to me as being a Nazi.

It's nowhere near as bad as nazism. How can you even say that?

Especially considering why Nazis are bad.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#98089: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:26:14 PM

I hope Spider-Noir continues to kick Nazi ass when he returns to his own dimension with the Rubik's Cube.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98090: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:27:26 PM

[up]x3 Points for the alliteration.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 11th 2019 at 10:27:42 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98091: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:28:08 PM

There's nothing more American than kicking nazi ass.

Why I just rented Wolfenstein: The New Order and I'm gonna enjoy liberating the world from some nazi ass.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#98093: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:30:50 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]One of the most dangerous things in society is the angry old white man.

[up][up]It's a sign of our times that killing Nazis in a Wolfenstein game has somehow become a source of outrage.

Edited by M84 on Mar 11th 2019 at 9:32:14 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#98094: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:34:43 PM

[up]×3

I looking forward to the upcoming game with Blazko's daughters.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98095: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:39:11 PM

We should move forward and also kick Confederate ass as well, if ya ask me.

Where's my Alternate History game where the Confederacy won the CW and I play as a black soldier drowing Confederates in their own piss?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98096: Mar 11th 2019 at 6:42:03 PM

[up][up] First New Order, then Old Blood, then Colossus, & then that one.

Plus the next big installment.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
lvthn13 Since: Dec, 2009
#98097: Mar 11th 2019 at 7:14:09 PM

Suffice it to say that certain types of speech are beyond what we consider normal discourse, and should be banned in public areas.

Suffice to say, you are gravely mistaken. Your own opinions were once subject to exactly the same censorship; how foolish to throw away the rope you used to get where you are.

Nothing else to say about that.

Edited by lvthn13 on Mar 11th 2019 at 7:14:38 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#98098: Mar 11th 2019 at 7:30:41 PM

So why did they change the cat's name to Goose?

Uni cat
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#98099: Mar 11th 2019 at 7:30:48 PM

It's weird how you continue to defend hate speech.

But regardless, this is the thread for this conversation, so let's move on.

Edited by Cortez on Mar 11th 2019 at 11:07:34 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98100: Mar 11th 2019 at 7:37:12 PM

lvthn13, [up], get this debate to a more appropriate thread, please, let's not make the mods bring down the hammers.


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