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I haven't watched the movie yet, I woupdn't know
Besides, how well a xharacter is developed is YMMV anyway, I've seen plenty of critics who think none of the characters in the MCU is well-developed. Let's not go into Opinion Myopia here.
Question: Are the shows canon to the movies in the strictest sense? I know the movies can't really reference them, but are they technically still canon?
Leviticus 19:34Independent from the MCU, this obsession with Character development You Tube critics tend to have is nonsense. Yes, a satisfying character arc is a plus in a story. But it is by far not the only way to construct a narrative and not even necessarily the best one.
Ie: What is the character arc in Psycho? There isn't one, or, to put it differently, the very point of the movie is to interrupt which looks like a developing character arc to throw the audience out of balance. What is the character arc in Snow White or Fantasia? Again, there isn't one, it is all about the emotional experience. What is the character development in the first Back to the Future movie? There is some for Marty's father, but none for Marty himself. It is only in the sequels that there is something like an arc for him. And those are the examples off the top of my mind.
In the case of Steve, his worth is exactly in the fact that he doesn't change all that much. No matter what, he will always be the moral paragon. But that doesn't make his struggle to keep to those ideals in a world which usually scoffs at them less interesting.
Yeah, exactly. "Manchild learns lesson on how to be a better person" is something we've seen, what, four times now? Iron Man, Thor, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Ant-Man.
I'm glad T'Challa had a story arc that was different — it wasn't him changing who he was, but changing his views on how open Wakanda should be. Same with Carol — she doesn't change who she is, she just remembers how strong she is and stands up.
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TBF, Scott Lang wasn't really a manchild who needed to grow up. He was already set on trying to be a responsible dad to Cassie. Unlike the rest, he was never really a jackass.
The ones who really do some belated growing up in that movie are Hank and Hope.
Edited by M84 on Mar 11th 2019 at 2:41:00 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedIt should be noted that Scott was more a “desperate man with no options”. I mean really, besides being jokey he’s a pretty responsible guy.
He did actually find lawful employment at Basket & Robins only to get fired cause he didn’t tell them he was a convict.
There’s also the fact that his theft against Pym was engineered by Pym himself. He maybe could have found another job if Pym hadn’t enacted his plans to get to him.
Edited by slimcoder on Mar 10th 2019 at 11:52:04 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Even his stint in prison was due to him trying to do the right thing by exposing his corrupt superiors' crimes. Too bad he used theft as his method. He stole the money they had been stealing from customers so he could funnel that money back to the customers.
That's pretty much the sole way he's a manchild — he wants to do the right thing, but he has a preference for more exciting and outrageous ways to do it.
Edited by M84 on Mar 11th 2019 at 2:55:57 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedIt’s rather interesting, his lackadaisical mannerisms gives you the impressions that he’s childish & unintelligent.
While the Pym’s serious nature’s along with with their more visibly obvious intelligence gives them the impression that they are more mature than they actually are.
Even in the first movie Scott was able to pick apart Hank’s reasons for choosing. Scott’s a hell of a lot more wiser than Hank & Hope are that’s for sure.
Edited by slimcoder on Mar 11th 2019 at 12:04:54 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Sooooo, I apologize in advance if that topic has already been discussed, but seeing how we're reaching the climax of the Infinity Stones arc, who do you think will be the new villains in future phases? Personally, I don't know how they will top themselves after this. Galactus, maybe.
Edited by Theokal3 on Mar 11th 2019 at 9:01:37 AM
There are a few choices, especially since Marvel will now own the FF/X-Men villains, too.
- Galactus
- Annihilus
- Dr. Doom
- Kang the Conqueror
And, if they want to continue their exchange with Sony and Spider-Man, they could even use Norman Osborn as a Earth-centric villain, as opposed to cosmic villains. A Dark Reign movie or a Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers film with him in it would be fascinating.
Oh please not Kang. Kang's thing is Time Travel, and I hate Time Travel stories.
If Doctor Strange becomes a more prominent character I kind of hope Shuma-Gorath becomes a major villain.
Edited by M84 on Mar 11th 2019 at 4:11:09 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised

When your in so many movies it is kinda hard to develop in each of them.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."