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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#97801: Mar 8th 2019 at 2:06:55 PM

In this case it actually improves the film for me to know Brie is playing Captain Marvel. She's a great person, from the looks of it.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#97802: Mar 8th 2019 at 2:30:58 PM

Yeah none of what Brie Larson actually said is very inflammatory or controversial; Twitter pundits and trolls just took the only sentence out of a relatively long statement that they could spin as being rude and used it to accuse her of misandry or whatever.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#97803: Mar 8th 2019 at 2:47:05 PM

Imagine Conspiracy Brother from Undercover Brother.

Larson: Hello. :)
Haters: Let me tell you something about the word "Hello". It's just a cover for her true meaning, which - if you run the word through the right internet translators - it will reveal itself to be advocacy for male babies should be sterilized at birth.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#97804: Mar 8th 2019 at 2:56:16 PM

Captain Marvel is a rather awful victim of the Culture Wars BS. Basically, the Anti-PC Crybabies will declare it the worst thing ever for stupid reasons, and in backlash its defenders will probably lionize the movie as the next sliced bread. The movie, in actuality, is merely good but not great.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97805: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:00:11 PM

Separeting art from artist depends a lot from how many people worked on any given product, the particular "sins" of the artist and what position he took in the creation process.

For instance, I'm only reading The Ender Games through pirating, because the writer is more or less the sole creator of a book.

I'm less willing to do that with, say, a movie or video game, as plenty of people work on that and I find it unfair to throw all of their work away because of the actions of one jerk.

Unless, of course, the particular problem is workplace harassment and abuse, in which case I draw the line. Hence why I'm never watching Sausage Party.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#97806: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:04:45 PM

[up][up] That's essentially what happened with the Ghostbusters reboot. It wasn't actually all that great, but defenders treated it as if it was revolutionary and dismissed a lot of criticism as motivated by (internalized) misogyny as opposed to the fact that the movie simply was not interesting enough to deserve such a strong reaction in any direction.

Edited by AlleyOop on Mar 8th 2019 at 6:05:04 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#97807: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:08:47 PM

[up][up]It's always weird when I remember that the author of Ender's Game is a massively homophobic bigot, considering Ender's Game is one of the most homoerotic pieces of children's literature that I've ever read.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97808: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:16:49 PM

wild mass guessMaybe he's a closeted homossexual and the homoerotic imagery in the book is his subconscious repressed desires leaking in his writing?wild mass guess

Also, from what little I know about Ender's Game, the story works quite well as a allegory about a gay teenager in a conservative family.

So, points for the Irony, if nothing else.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#97809: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:18:43 PM

[up][up][up][up]That last bit is just another of multiple reasons why I'm never playing League of Legends. Another big reason is that I just never gave a shit in the first place.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Mar 8th 2019 at 3:19:01 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97811: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:22:19 PM

[up]x2 I haven't bought a single AAA game in years, and I don't regret it.

Hell, if it weren't for the fact the reinburse period ended ages ago, I'd given back my Steam copy of The Wolf Among Us. Much as I love that game, the sheer mess that was Tell Tale Games doesn't let my conscience stay clear with the support I've given them over the years.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 8th 2019 at 8:29:15 AM

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#97812: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:30:06 PM

[up][up] The idea that misogyny, racism, and other forms of bigotry have been snuffed out is a myth. Never forget that.

There is a culture war raging in the United States between people who want to preserve the dominance of majority demographics and those who want to empower disenfranchised minority groups, and the strongest tactic the former has is to try and convince poeple that the conflict isn't real.

That way, we're all surprised when these things happen, because they undermine the carefully falsified worldview that we live in an egalitarian society and that any proclamation of bigotry is, itself, a bigoted attack against heterosexual white men.

We all want to believe that the fight for equal rights was victoriously ended before we were born and that there's nothing left to do. But that is a piece of propaganda meant to keep people complacent while slowly pushing minorities back into "their place". Never buy into the lie.

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#97813: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:44:41 PM

…I'm more surprised that RT only realized now that allowing pre-release audience reviews was stupid. Not that it stopped the trolls after the release, but still. It's kind of an obvious loophole.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#97814: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:51:08 PM

Orson Scott Card being a homophobic bigot is news to me.

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#97815: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:52:27 PM

... that's just disgusting. I really hope the movie works despite these morons.

If that's any consolation, I can report from France that our own country seems to receive the movie well; it had one of the biggest superhero box offices opening weekends in a while.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#97816: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:53:49 PM

[up][up]It's been on public record for quite some time now (like almost 30 years at this point, since he wrote his big infamous homophobic essay in 1990).

Edited by Draghinazzo on Mar 8th 2019 at 7:54:00 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#97817: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:54:39 PM

He’s been pretty known as one for a while. Lionsgate even put out a press statement with the release of the EG movie saying they did not promote or agree with Card’s stance.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#97818: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:54:59 PM

[up] I don't know that much about him or his work.

Edited by Lymantria on Mar 8th 2019 at 6:55:27 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97819: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:56:29 PM

Ya know I'm actually writing an action-adventure story.

This makes me glad I've been making a lot of female characters.

Does this character sound cool, a woman whose a mother from Thailand who uses Muay Thai to tear demons apart with her bare hands?

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 8th 2019 at 3:58:17 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#97822: Mar 8th 2019 at 4:42:50 PM

I'd say it definitely sounds so.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97823: Mar 8th 2019 at 4:57:13 PM

She is an avenger.

Once upon a time in Ancient China, a demon prince whose family had just conquered China wanders into Thailand to find love because he is an insecure bastard looking for validation. He stumbles onto a wedding & ends up causing a massacre whilst making off with the bride & her sister.

It was then one of the survivors, the brides mother a trained martial artist herself declared vengeance for the atrocity done to her family & rescue of her children. She then went to the mountains to train, essentially pulling a Netero from Hunter x Hunter where she would practice thousands of moves each day & thousands of prayers after every move.

It was then after years of training her mind had cooled, her rage tempered into a fine steel, her hands & feet capable of moving at supersonic speeds & rending landscapes as if they were butter.

And so she waged war against the demon family with nothing but what God gave her & a burning abhorrence of all things evil.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#97824: Mar 8th 2019 at 6:44:55 PM

Holy shit that sounds badass.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#97825: Mar 8th 2019 at 6:53:32 PM

Saw Captain Marvel today. Easily one of my top three MCU movies alongside Black Panther and Spider-Man: Homecoming.


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