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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#97727: Mar 7th 2019 at 7:33:59 PM

Just saw the movie myself. I posted some more complete thoughts in the spoiler thread, but over here I will say that more than anything, it made me happy. I won't elaborate since that would mean giving away some colossal spoilers, but I'm definitely glad I watched it.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#97728: Mar 7th 2019 at 7:41:05 PM

What's The Stinger this time and is it worth camping out for?

Getting blue-balled by Ant Man And The Wasp has made me cautious. Great movie, but not the most thrilling post-credits scene.

Edited by Soble on Mar 7th 2019 at 7:41:42 AM

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#97729: Mar 7th 2019 at 7:57:27 PM

[up] They are worth camping out for. Neither have the happiness-murdering effects of the Ant-Man and The Wasp mid-credit scene.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97730: Mar 7th 2019 at 7:58:37 PM

Whaaaaaat? Ant&Wasp had one of the best post-credits scenes ever!

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
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#97731: Mar 7th 2019 at 8:18:23 PM

A Mat W's mid-credits scene is not just nasty mood whiplash in a refreshingly light-hearted movie coming off of Infinity War, it basically undoes the happy ending. They got Janet out of the Quantum Realm and she's reunited with Hope and Hank, yay! Oh wait, they're all disintegrated thanks to Thanos. Ava Starr is saved and forgiven, yay! Oh wait, she still probably needs healing particles and Scott, the one down there collecting them, is trapped for a while thanks to Thanos. I just didn't care to watch it again two months ago.

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#97732: Mar 7th 2019 at 8:47:51 PM

EDIT: Cut my own comment. Nothing to see here.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 7th 2019 at 8:52:54 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97733: Mar 7th 2019 at 9:28:46 PM

Huh that’s funny, Marvel already has a review on the trope page & it’s negative, even calling her a Mary Sue. tongue

Just saw the movie, I liked it well enough.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 7th 2019 at 9:29:06 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#97734: Mar 7th 2019 at 9:28:48 PM

Saw it. Without spoilers, it’s good. Clunky start with a lot of info dumping, but once that ball gets rolling, it rolls very well.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 7th 2019 at 9:29:20 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97735: Mar 7th 2019 at 11:02:08 PM

Was just thinking, who's the newest character to have their own MCU film (as the title character)?
Carol Danvers first appeared in 1968, but she didn't become Captain Marvel until 2012, so that may or may not count.

Same thing with the Guardians of the Galaxy: the original team (who was from the year 31st century) first appeared in 1969, but the modern incarnation that the movie is based upon first appeared in 2008.

If we're counting TV shows, then Jessica Jones first appeared in 2001.

Also, here's my spoiler filled review of the movie. I loved it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97736: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:07:59 AM

So...has anyone an explanation why the reviews are so contradicting?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97737: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:12:42 AM

Looking over comments on Reddit, I think this just may be a case of another The Last Jedi: a lot of the things I loved about the film are things that other people hated. I'm already seeing things like "This was the worst MCU film" and "This was better than Black Panther" and things like that.

If it does end up being as divisive as The Last Jedi, then...god help us all.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97738: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:18:32 AM

Okay there is nothing controversial about this movie.

It’s not exactly among the MCU’s A-Tier list but it’s pretty inoffensive for the most part.

At least TLJ actually had things you can contest. About the only thing I can contest here is whether the climax was climactic enough.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:19:21 PM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97739: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:23:03 AM

Okay there is nothing controversial about this movie.
It's a movie where the lead character is a woman who is apologetically more powerful than every man in the film (to the point where she's canonically the most powerful superhero in the MCU). To some people, that it itself is controversial.

At least TLJ actually had things you can contest.
There are things I absolutely love about TLJ that other people hate and it seems to be the same with Captain Marvel, too. It's not about controversy, it's about how people see the film. Hell, you can say there's nothing controversial, but people can imbue controversy in anything — and undoubtedly will with this film.

Especially since it (MAJOR SPOILERS) retcons certain things, like Fury naming the Avenger Initiative after Carol or losing his eye due to Goose, while also changing things from the comics, like making Mar-Vell a woman.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:26:05 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97740: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:27:22 AM

Okay that actually has some sense, barring the problem with it being a woman of course.

A suddenly introduced new character revealed to have the highest power level over more established characters can raise a few eyebrows.

It’s like if Dragon Ball revealed that the Gods long knew of another warrior in Universe 7 who is far stronger than Goku who at that point is a God.

[up] Some or that I don’t consider as major as what TLJ did.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:28:37 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97741: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:32:52 AM

Some or that I don’t consider as major as what TLJ did.
At the risk of turning this into the Star Wars thread: I can see the similarities in the way that each movie subverts expectations. TLJ, however, had the history of the entire Star Wars franchise behind it, with the expectations of a new Luke Skywalker appearance, which is why it became so controversial. Captain Marvel, too, has a ton of expectations, but definitely not as much as TLJ did.

MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#97742: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:32:57 AM

[up][up]Funny you would say that, since Dragon Ball Super: Broly reveals that Broly is more powerful than Goku by himself, and he might even be stronger than Beerus, the God of Destruction Goku has yet to beat.

Edited by MJTrooper on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:33:06 PM

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#97743: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:33:06 AM

Captain Marvel can stand on its own merits. It's not as as if has some kind of Happy Ending Override of old classics that would make numerous long-time fans very bitter and angry. Nor some overhyped mystery engineered by the filmmakers that amounted to nothing.

Believe me, TLJ's reception didn't happen for Black Panther and I doubt it will happen to Captain Marvel.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97744: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:39:16 AM

[up][up] The context is different though.

Broly’s very existence was a complete shock & surprise to everyone. Nobody knew who he was because he was trapped on a secluded planet in the far outreaches of the galaxy for over 40 decades..

It be more like if during the TOP recruitment Shin & Beerus reveals that they’ve known about this ultimate warrior whose just been hanging in the background all this time, even back when Frieza was terrorizing the universe.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:40:14 PM

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#97745: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:42:17 AM

Well, no-one had a problem with Monaka, even before he was revealed to be a fraud.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97746: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:44:58 AM

[up][up] I'd say that the context is actually pretty similar. Nobody in the previous films knows who Carol Danvers is, aside from Fury and Coulson and they aren't telling.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:45:07 PM

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#97747: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:46:32 AM

Let's keep the Captain Marvel spoilers OUT of this thread, please. Especially if we're going to be making comparisons to another series that have spoiler tags.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97748: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:47:03 AM

The Last Jedi really disappointed a lot of fans and made them bitter. I dare to suggest that Captain Marvel can't even do it because even if it were a terrible movie, it would hard for it to do the same "what did you do to my favourite characters?" thing The Last Jedi did.

But hopefully we won't spend the next years fighting about the question if the movie is good or bad and if it is better than Wonder Woman or not.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97749: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:47:52 AM

Then again DB has already done the plotline several times before.

After Frieza the emperor of the universe was dealt with enter the Androids, bio-mechanical brings stronger than Frieza.

Than when the Androids were dealt with, enter Buu, an Eldritch Abomination as old as time itself that was sealed away centuries ago.

So I guess it’s just your mileage may vary.

[up][up][up] You mean the second context right? Because Carol’s situation is not like Broly’s.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:49:13 PM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97750: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:47:59 AM

I'm going to continue this conversation in the CM Spoilers thread.


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