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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#97576: Mar 5th 2019 at 6:31:05 AM

Yeah, i'm actually very excited for Shazam cuz it looks like fun, and it'd suck if pissy fanboys manage to ruin it for me. :/

In any case, I'm seeing Captain Marvel this Saturday and I am stoked. Also, when is the review embargo lifted again?

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97577: Mar 5th 2019 at 6:43:37 AM

So I ain't the only one who thinks Clint's haircut looks kind of hideous, am I?

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#97578: Mar 5th 2019 at 6:44:43 AM

When the film is out I guess. I still can't believe that these people had the guts to present themselves as victims who were stopped from talking when preventing them from giving opinions about a movie that hasn't even come out yet seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97579: Mar 5th 2019 at 6:46:25 AM

[up][up] I don't know, but the poster art of Hulk wearing some kind of uniform is very intriguing to me. I mean, I assume we will get Hulk back in Endgame; there's far too much setup for it to be quietly dropped. Banner's arc is undoubtedly going to involve reconciling with his big, green pal, and if that turns into some kind of synthesis a la Professor Hulk, I'm going to be very excited.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97580: Mar 5th 2019 at 6:47:32 AM

Now. Reviews are tickling in as we speak. So for I would summon them up with "good, not great".

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 5th 2019 at 6:51:54 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97581: Mar 5th 2019 at 6:51:25 AM

[up] Oh, gods. "La, la, la, I can't hear anybody saying anything for the next five days."

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97582: Mar 5th 2019 at 6:59:02 AM

[up][up]So would anyone believe me if I said that's exactly what I expected?

I mean, I know it's easy to say this after the reviews started pouring in, but aside from being female-led, nothing from the promotional materials screamed "mind-blowing", at least for me.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#97583: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:00:49 AM

[up]x3 - The problem is “good, not great” (three stars from USA Today) is going to be interpreted as “worst movie ever, string up Brie Larson and retcon her out of Endgame”.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97584: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:03:18 AM

A part of me wonders how many of those reviewers are being subtly influenced by the fear of being set upon by all the trolls...

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#97585: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:04:53 AM

[up]I’d argue if that was the case they would go more negative.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#97586: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:10:57 AM

[up][up][up] Let's be honest, if the reviews were all "THIS IS THE GREATEST MOVIE EVER MADE", they'd just claim that critics are only praising the movie because it stars a female lead. I expect some of them will go that route just because the reviews aren't universally terrible.

Nevermind that plenty of female-led movies in the past have been trashed by the critics.

The trolls are going to interpret any developments as being negative. Even if it somehow blasts past expectations and opens to over 200 million in the NA box office alone, they will somehow find a reason to think it means the sky is falling.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97587: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:14:39 AM

I have skimmed through the blurbs of the reviews and yes, I think, the whole controversy had an impact...but not the way you would expect. A common theme of the more negative ones is "it is not as feminist as the marketing tooted" and I am all "when has the marketing ever promised anything but a Marvel movie with a females lead?"

Strangely, what I have seen makes me even more excited, because what I read makes it sound like exactly the kind of movie I love to see. It is allegorical (not sure about what, but great!!!), instead of a love story it focusses on a female to female friendship (YES!!!!) and Brie Larson is praised across the board except from one idiot who says "that you can expect of an actress to give her best work in a superhero movie" (what an a...).

Plus, the reviewers who usually praise the Marvel movies I consider okay and call the ones okay which I love the most are saying the movie is okay, so I will most likely adore it. tongue

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97588: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:43:26 AM

Hey as long as it’s not mediocre.

Plus it serves as a good bench-mark for female driven superhero movies.

Now that Carol’s out of the way, they can go even weirder for the next one.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97589: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:47:12 AM

There are some say that it is kind of unusual for an MCU movie. Naturally there are also those who claim it is just more of the marvel Formular.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97590: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:49:00 AM

I’ve seen people call every Marvel movie formular & by everything that includes from Black Panther to Infinity War to Civil War.

I’m not even sure what the forumla is at this point.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#97591: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:55:19 AM

I saw some complaints about the aggressive Air Force aspect as being military propaganda.

My initial response was to be skeptical (she’s a pilot, c’mon) buuuut on the other hand, a lot of the trailers would make decent recruitment ads.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97592: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:56:02 AM

[up][up] I know, which is why I put more stock into those who say that Captain Marvel is pretty much going its own thing, whatever that thing exactly is.

So while nobody says that it is the best MCU movie (which, frankly, I didn't expect) some say it is up there with the best of them.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 5th 2019 at 8:21:03 AM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#97593: Mar 5th 2019 at 10:26:30 AM

Still makes me wanna see it so far! I agree with Swanpride, it's nice that they are apparently focusing on a girl to girl friendship rather than a romance (though I have no doubt Yuri fans will have a day with it).

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#97594: Mar 5th 2019 at 10:35:54 AM

I mean even if Carol was in her old outfit, ass out fighting aliens, the trolls would still gripe about something.

Just Makima.
Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#97595: Mar 5th 2019 at 10:44:47 AM

Having seen Battle Angel Alita, I think Alita is actually a very good movie, especially if you like weird sci-fi, action and the original manga+OVA.

Everything I've seen indicates Captain Marvel will be a Super Hero movie, so I'm not seeing any connection between the two films outside of the vague connection of both having a female lead.

And I don't see whats stopping us from having two blockbuster films with a female lead. If anything it'll lead to film makers understanding female leads are not a turn off for moviegoers.

Edited by Monsund on Mar 5th 2019 at 10:55:45 AM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#97596: Mar 5th 2019 at 12:01:42 PM

[up]I have been saying this for a while now. Same for these who compared the movie to Wonder Woman. Considering how little good female superhero movies there are, we really don't need competition between them.

Edited by Theokal3 on Mar 5th 2019 at 9:01:57 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97597: Mar 5th 2019 at 1:20:12 PM

It would most likely make way more sense to compare Captain Marvel with something like Green Lantern and, well, that wouldn't really be competition at all.

But I guess we won't be able to avoid people comparing Captain Marvel with Wonder Woman. Nor will we be able to avoid people nitpicking Captain Marvel, since they have already decided that the movie will be terrible.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#97598: Mar 5th 2019 at 1:37:10 PM

Man I don't even want to look at the Rotten Tomatoes audience score once it's turned on post-release.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#97599: Mar 5th 2019 at 1:37:26 PM

Frankly, screw them. Once the movie comes out and turns out to be a success, their whole controversy crap will have to die down eventually. They won't be able to keep pretending the character is failing if the movie works.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97600: Mar 5th 2019 at 1:38:44 PM

Oh Thanos help us when Kamala eventually comes in.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 5th 2019 at 1:38:58 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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