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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I'm not interested in the Ultimate editions of the various heroes if those versions are completely unlikable asshats. To go that route risks severe audience apathy as they stop rooting for the good guys.
Edited by Fighteer on Mar 4th 2019 at 12:06:11 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
The only person who calls out Hank on being an unlikable jackass is Foster, who claimed that Janet was the only one who could stand Hank. And it does show — we can see in the first movie that Hank has managed to alienate everyone around him.
Scott manages to get along with him (eventually) but then again, Scott manages to get along with just about anyone and everyone. He was able to make friends with his fellow convicts in prison, after all.
Edited by M84 on Mar 5th 2019 at 1:27:02 AM
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Ya know it’s funny that the Ultimates was once considered a best seller that apparently help save Marvel from bankruptcy or something.
Man has the novelty worn off since then. :/
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I sometime call those people & they deflect any critics by calling me a hypocrite engaging in the same whining they do. I do insult them, it’s not like you shouldn't call them crap after all.
Edited by slimcoder on Mar 5th 2019 at 2:31:26 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."For more hilarious Anti-SJW stupidity, I just found out a Youtuber named Nobullshit has pointed out what he thought were SJW moments in Infinity War, of all things. Highlight include Banner's inhability of Hulking Out being compared to erectal disfunction (yes, seriously) and being seen as emasculating the manliest character in the franchise so female characters can do most of the fight, and the operation to remove Vision's gem being compared to a transgender operation (as apparently he is trying to go from robot to human and that's a transgender metaphor for some reason). I should be disgusted, but I am too busy laughing my ass off.
Edited by Theokal3 on Mar 5th 2019 at 1:12:13 PM
I've heard of No Bullshit. He seems like an amazingly punchable shitstain of a person.
And I just realized I missed an opportunity for an intentional pun.
Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Mar 5th 2019 at 4:34:54 AM
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)Well, for what is worth, someone who was on the premiere posted a non-review of Captain Marvel and basically said that the only thing which is "feminist" about the movie is the fact that it happens to star a female, and that you have to be really nitpicky to find some sort of "agenda" in it.
Not that this will stop the likes of geeks and gamers...
"He's like a pirate had a baby with an angel." ![]()
It's easy to forget, amid the tragedy of the ending, how utterly hilarious Infinity War is.
Anyway, the Mark Ruffalo bit in New York is absolutely played as an impotence joke, and I suppose that would be very triggering to those beta male idiots. Look, here's my violin.
Edited by Fighteer on Mar 5th 2019 at 9:09:12 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"@Swanpride: Oh God, don't even get me started with Geeks and Gamers. Guys like these are giving reasonable geeks a bad name.
But yeah, if that non-review you heard about Captain Marvel is true, then that pretty much confirms what I have been saying all along: there is NOTHING that is a feminist agenda in that movie, and hopefully that will make all these idiots look ridiculous once the movie comes out.
Also, while I indeed doubt it will actually harm the two movies, I do feel bad for Shazam and Alita, both movies that seem pretty good (I read Alita's manga and absolutely loved it) but get dragged into this crap for no reason.
Oh, also No Bullshit said that while he did think Black Panther was good, it had, I quote, "suspiciously a lot of women among the characters." As if that was a bad thing—' He also complained about Shuri being portrayed as more of a genius than Banner and Vision, down to comparing it to Rey repairing the Millenium Falcon better than Solo in the Force Awakens.
Edited by Theokal3 on Mar 5th 2019 at 3:30:45 PM

Actually, I feel like tying Ghost's plot and Hank's plot closer together would have helped the movie pretty substantially. AM&TW felt really disjointed, with Ghost's revenge arc, Hank's rescue arc, Scott's house arrest arc, and that one dude's black market arc all pulling it in different directions. If they axed the black market subplot entirely and used that time to dive into Hank's character and his failings (as they relate both to Ava and to Janet), the movie could have been much more cohesive.
I know that's quite a big rewrite, though. I don't think the movie needed that much of a change. I just kinda wish the movie had left out one tiny bit of dialogue.
In the movie as-is, Hank pretty much drops one single line to defend himself against Ghost and Foster's accusation and the movie leaves it at that, and that's what kind of sours it for me. It takes some of the grayness out - Hank is an entirely innocent victim of a desperate person who is only misguidedly lashing out at him. Without that one line, Hank is someone who has truly, grievously wronged Ava in the past, and the film gets to ask the question: "Hank Pym ruined Ava's life, so would the score be settled if the Ghost kills Janet?" (The movie would still answer that question with Janet breaking the cycle by healing Ava, the way she does in the movie anyways, but at least this way there's more thematic consistency.)
Or maybe I just feel that way because Hank is a jackass throughout both movies, but never gets called on it. I dunno. Might just be a bias.