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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#97476: Mar 3rd 2019 at 8:36:40 PM

I saw the full video, and while I like it, it leaves itself more open for those trolls to counter it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97477: Mar 3rd 2019 at 10:29:18 PM

I am not really grousing about what the trolls are doings…at least, not anymore. since it is pretty obvious at this point that Captain Marvel will soar further, faster, higher than originally expected, I am half amused by the crazy conspiracy theories they come up with, half I want to draw attention to it so that they can't go in half a year and claim that "see, Marvel does it correctly, there was no controversy whatsoever surrounding Captain Marvel".

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 4th 2019 at 2:08:47 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#97478: Mar 3rd 2019 at 10:51:18 PM

I like how Starforce has it's own totally-not-evil-we-swear version of the Air Force mantra: Live Longer, Stronger, Superior.

You can hear it in some of the trailers.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 3rd 2019 at 10:52:23 AM

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#97480: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:28:57 AM

[up][up][up]

Captain Marvel will sour further, faster, higher than originally expected

I assume you meant "soar"?

Disgusted, but not surprised
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97481: Mar 4th 2019 at 2:10:39 AM

[up] Arg...yes, thanks, I corrected it.

I am not kidding there, btw. Naturally box office predictions are not a precise science, but it really looks like Captain Marvel will do extremely well. At this point I wouldn't bet against the notion of it becoming another billion movie. I wouldn't bet on it either, but I won't dismiss the notion.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97482: Mar 4th 2019 at 2:13:53 AM

Oh God I can only imagine there reactions to that happening.

It will be majestic, as Godlike as listening to the OST of Vento Aureo. [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#97483: Mar 4th 2019 at 2:13:59 AM

I predict Captain Marvel will land somewhere between Wonder Woman and Black Panther in terms of success, so between "great" and "ludicrous". I could see it breaking a billion at the high end, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't at least get to 800 million.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Mar 4th 2019 at 3:14:18 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97484: Mar 4th 2019 at 2:43:59 AM

Yeah, at least 800 million, possible just past a billion is my prediction, too. Everything seems to be falling in place for the movie. It has the whole month practically on its own, it is the first big movie out of the gate, people a really hungry for an MCU movie particular, Ao S fans have been on withdrawal for a year now and really, really need their fix, so they will go for a little bit of Coulson in a heartbeat, it is the first MCU movie which gets released after Stan Lee's death, and in general, there is just a lot of buzz around it. Negative buzz from the haters, but also a lot of positive buzz from those who have seen the movie. It is also bound to pick up some extra viewers towards the end of the run with it overlaps with Endgame (Black Panther had a sudden jump in viewers when Infinity War got released).

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#97485: Mar 4th 2019 at 5:04:18 AM

[up][up][up]"Salty percussion on a whole 'nother level! Coming from the trolls!"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97486: Mar 4th 2019 at 5:44:29 AM

They will just spin their conspiracy theories and pick the movie apart in order to convince everyone that it isn't really all that great overall.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#97487: Mar 4th 2019 at 7:11:26 AM

[up]I’m pretty sure that’s what’s going to happen. I mean, the film isn’t going to be this massive triumph of cinema, it’s probably going to be a fun comic book film (which given how many Dork Age periods Carol Danvers has had in comics makes this a massive improvement off the bat). But the bar is clearly going to be set so if this isn’t a massive life changing film it will be crap.

I mean, there’s no way this film is gonna win in the court of public opinion. This is the only film I can think of in recent memories ripped apart as both a straw liberal fantasy (because of Brie Larson’s statements) and a military bootlicking exercise (because Brie Larson visited an Air Force base to you know, prepare to play an Air Force pilot).

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#97488: Mar 4th 2019 at 10:37:31 AM

I was already planning to see this movie anyway if just out of curiosity, but now I actively wanna go see it just to give all these morons the middle finger. I mean, seriously, we know next to NOTHING about this movie, it isn't out yet, and yet people are already yelling about how it's Marvel going "woke", despite nothing in the trailer suggesting so.

Edited by Theokal3 on Mar 4th 2019 at 7:38:33 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97489: Mar 4th 2019 at 11:20:08 AM

lol...I am the same...I went from "if the reviews are good, I might see it" to "I ensure that I will see it" to "I will be there in the first week" just because of those idiots.

Well, partly because I like what I hear about the movie and I just know that they will try to ruin it for everyone by spreading spoilers all over the net at the first opportunity.

[up] Apparently the a HE Ro was already to much for them.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 4th 2019 at 11:20:46 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97490: Mar 4th 2019 at 12:53:17 PM

[up] Yeah, I find all those people silly. Like, their reason for disliking it is "Why did they have to remind me that she was female? I would have preferred it if they never stated her gender whatsoever."

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#97491: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:08:44 PM

I'm pretty sure the court of public opinion just wants to see a fun movie.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97492: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:20:35 PM

They are still building on their big conspiracy theory. So other than that apparently a lot of theatres have decided to run Captain Marvel on as many screens as possible now they are also not having early sales for the few movies which are on that day. So basically they are behaving like they always behave when a big movie gets released and it is a big conspiracy to force everyone to watch Captain Marvel.

Oh, and Captain Marvel is destroying comic book stores too. Because of course she does.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 4th 2019 at 1:51:24 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#97493: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:40:13 PM

I wish Captain Marvel would destroy these assholes.

That's destruction I'd be ok with.tongue

Sure, they'd be right about her destroying something, but that's a hit I'm willing to take to reduce the number of assholes in the world.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97494: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:43:49 PM

Not worth her time

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#97495: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:44:57 PM

The irony is that currently Captain Marvel is doing extremely well in comics sales.

The latest weird development has been fanboys pushing Alita as the “true” female-led film to support, which... okay? It’s apparently an adequate movie. Too bad this new support is coming well after its premiere so the film doesn’t have much chance to recoup its lost budget.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97496: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:47:13 PM

I’m annoyed that people are taking Youtubers as expert.

I recently had an argument about someone about a separate topic & they linked me to some Youtuber as if they are supposed to be some kind of expert.

Even worse the person they linked to had no views or subscribers, why the fuck should I listen to these people about such serious topics in the first place?

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 4th 2019 at 1:47:32 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#97497: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:47:25 PM

[up][up]I've heard Alita is actually pretty cool if you're a fan of the manga, and probably the first good anime to live action adaptation Hollywood has produced. But yeah, it's a bit odd that they decided to latch onto it of all things.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Mar 4th 2019 at 5:47:35 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97498: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:49:08 PM

Well technically second if you count Edge of Tommorow based off the light novel All You Need Is Kill.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97499: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:51:38 PM

Well, there are also reasonable voices, and I stumbled over two which I feel are worth listening to. This one, because he calls out all the sexist BS which is baked into the so called controversy:

And this one is a little bit less aware about the political context, but has some really good points regarding Marvel's way of marketing movies.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 4th 2019 at 1:53:24 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97500: Mar 4th 2019 at 1:51:58 PM

Samuel L. Jackson knows what's what:

"The mere fact that you give a voice or a platform to people who normally don't have a platform is part of the problem," Jackson reflected. "You can have an opinion that you don't really have to be responsible for because nobody's going to see you, nobody's going to challenge you on it and if you want to bring somebody down or ruin somebody's day, you can say anything. Everybody doesn't want to be uplifting and that's pretty much what that problem is."

[up] The first one looks interesting (especially since I noticed the "Not Really" bubble), but the second one looks like it's using the phrase "SJW" seriously. Please tell me they are not or they are using it ironically or something.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 4th 2019 at 1:53:10 AM


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