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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97426: Mar 2nd 2019 at 11:36:49 AM

Yeah, my car is so old, it has no heating...I use fingerless gloves in the winter because I don't want to lose the grip, but I can just take away the finger tips steering wheel when I don't actively use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable to drive with actual gloves, too slippery.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#97427: Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:05:07 PM

I suppose, but, who exercises in weather where you even need gloves? Ok, so the weight room is cold, unlikely in most gyms but still possible. Are you not building up enough of a sweat that the cold is irrelevant?

Wearing them in a cold car - that I get. Wearing them when you're working out? It's not something I would think to do. Do the gloves improve the workout? Is it less stress on the palms or something? If anything I'd think the firmness/thickness of the fabric would loosen one's grip.

I swear if not for some claiming that the warmth provided is an ok trade-off, I'd do everything in my power to eliminate fingerless gloves from the face of this earth and just make everyone wear mittens. Mittens are nice.

And the thing about finger-less gloves is that it pays lipservice to other concepts. Next thing you know we'll have toe-less so...

-googles-

Oh goddamit.

Fine. I can play this game too. Let's just have tireless cars, maskless superheroes, and windowless apartments.

Edited by Soble on Mar 2nd 2019 at 1:58:31 AM

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#97428: Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:10:30 PM

Maskless superheroes? You mean going back to 2003?

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MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#97429: Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:12:07 PM

The palm portion of fingerless gloves is nice for people who have soft or sensitive skin. In terms of working out, they allow you to use the grip of your fingers to hold the weights or chin-up bar without getting calluses on your palms.

I never really considered how useful they'd be in superhero fights, but I guess they could kind of serve the same purpose there. If someone tries to punch you and you catch their fist, fingerless gloves would give your fingers their full grip and dexterity, while providing the palm with a bit of extra padding.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#97430: Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:15:44 PM

I wore what I think were technically weightlifting gloves when I was on crutches, pretty reasonable compromise between preventing callouses and keeping dexterity.

Shuri absolutely still has that footage.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97431: Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:23:28 PM

I mean, if Cap is catching spears with his hand, I can imagine a fingerless glove being useful.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#97432: Mar 2nd 2019 at 5:21:54 PM

Muffin: you said god given right and now I imagine bast apearing in front of shuri saying that by god decree shuri will forever have that and any other footage of her brotherevil grin

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97433: Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:57:04 PM

Brie Larson and Samuel L. Jackson take turns saying each other's iconic lines. (And if you are wondering "I don't remember if Brie Larson has had any iconic lines?" yes, she points that out herself.)

Edited by alliterator on Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:57:14 AM

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#97434: Mar 2nd 2019 at 8:27:27 PM

She seems fun. And huh, I've actually seen two of her movies.

And the obligatory "Brie Larson hates white men" comment under that post gets an eye roll from me.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#97435: Mar 2nd 2019 at 9:12:30 PM

Lol... when I clicked the link I thought it was Disney video and didn't look at whose twitter page it actually was.

So when they started cursing, my eyes bugged out of my head. evil grinevil grin

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97436: Mar 2nd 2019 at 11:06:22 PM

speaking of twitter, I think I figured where the "Captain Marvel destroyed comics" nonsense comes from. Apparently because of some meeting which happens every year someone at twitter started the rumour that Marvel Comics will get shut down, which those "Captain Marvel is the worst" idiots turned into another opportunity to blame Captain Marvel (I suspect because of Civil War II).

Btw, the newest "story" is that Marvel cuts down the running time of the movie from three hours and cut out as much as Captain Marvel as possible in the process….

That's not how cutting a movie for time works….

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#97437: Mar 2nd 2019 at 11:10:34 PM

....... I won’t even dignify that with an insult.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97438: Mar 3rd 2019 at 2:28:39 AM

On a more positive note, I discovered a channel which seems to have a preference of mixing Marvel with Queen...and is REALLY good at it. I think this might be my fav:

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#97439: Mar 3rd 2019 at 9:31:12 AM

This video is on race rather than sex and gender, and primarily covers the DCAU, but the message is effectively the same. Diverse characters is about representation and reflecting reality, not just letting enforced homogeneity continue just because.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:32:32 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97440: Mar 3rd 2019 at 9:58:18 AM

On the "talking BS about Captain Marvel" front (because frankly, this is getting hilarious: Supposedly Australia forces people to watch Captain Marvel.

In reality Captain Marvel just happens to be the one big movie which will be around next week in Australia (especially since they got some movies like HTTYD 3 earlier than the US), so most theatres simple scheduled what most people will want to watch. and frankly, if you don't want to watch it, just don't go to the cinema.

Btw, Captain Marvel has an excellent slot. There will be no other new releases this weekend, and nothing notable in the following week.

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#97441: Mar 3rd 2019 at 10:41:57 AM

Why do the review-bombers want the movies to fail?

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#97442: Mar 3rd 2019 at 10:45:39 AM

Cause they’re sexist misogynist jerks with nothing better to do.

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#97443: Mar 3rd 2019 at 10:45:56 AM

[up][up]Sexism, mainly. Even though their efforts are for naught and it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to make some mad dosh because it's a superhero movie, let alone an MCU movie.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Mar 3rd 2019 at 10:46:06 AM

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#97444: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:03:25 AM

While we can pretty confidant in MCU movies doing well, don't be so blasé about superhero movies in general or even Marvel based properties automatically making bank. Remember Fant4stic?

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#97445: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:05:43 AM

Ok, can anyone explain to me why Captain Marvel is suddenly the worst thing?

I don't get it, did any of the actors or production did something bad?

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#97446: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:14:56 AM

It's the first female-led MCU film. That's the "something bad" it did to offend some folks.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#97447: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:14:59 AM

[up][up][up] Everyone knew Fant4stic was going to bomb. Obviously people hoped they'd be wrong, but the Fantastic 4 movies have a history of being mediocre at best, and the trailers didn't inspire much confidence.

Edited by Discar on Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:15:06 AM

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#97448: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:22:23 AM

I do remember a bunch of racists were getting on Fan4stic's case because Johnny was black, but I believe that kind of got overshadowed by people not being onboard with the Darker and Edgier direction, the Ashcan Copy nature of the film, and the general production problems that were getting leaked out. Once the film was released, people focused on the actual issues of the film and the racists probably didn't feel they needed to take the film down a peg any more then they did.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97449: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:27:00 AM

Fant4stic had an extremely troubling production, everyone knew that the only reason the movie was made at all was because Fox wanted to hold onto the rights, the trailers looked awful, they tried to hide the movie as long as possible and then Wo M was just bad, and that included the Wo M from the director, who practically disowned the movie at the day of release...EVERYTHING was stacked against it.

And yes, Superhero movies can fail, but Marvel studios usually doesn't, hence they get a certain measure of trust. And rumours are the Captain Marvel isn't just good, people who have seen it expect that the excitement over it will even grow once Wo M makes the round.

Anyway, especially female lead but in general "culturally important" movies like Black Panther have been attacked by right-wing media channels at least since Mad Max Fury Road. At least, that was the first time I noticed. Apparently you can get a lot of clicks (and therefore a lot of money) if you attack a so called "woke" property and create a one-sided controversy. Usually it just isn't as noticeable because, well, those people just blend into the usual fandom rivalries or use honest fandom gripes with a property as fig leaf.

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#97450: Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:27:47 AM

@fasoman Brie Larson said that she wanted more diversity in interviewers and film reviewers, after realizing that the vast majority of them were white men. A bunch of sexist assholes jumped on that to whine about how white men are being discriminated against.


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