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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#97301: Feb 28th 2019 at 9:40:09 PM

Isn't the whole point of Flashpoint that Flash accidentally changes the universe and in the new universe, Thomas Wayne is Batman because Bruce died to the mugger instead of him? That was pretty badass.

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#97302: Feb 28th 2019 at 9:50:34 PM

[up]I wouldn't say it's the whole point, but it is the main selling point. Also Thomas is basically Bat-Punisher and Martha lost her mind and became the Joker.

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Feb 28th 2019 at 9:51:17 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#97303: Feb 28th 2019 at 10:23:03 PM

I meant the whole point was Flash changing the universe, not Thomas as Batman. I worded that awkwardly.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 28th 2019 at 11:23:19 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97304: Feb 28th 2019 at 10:55:18 PM

Yeah, Thomas and Martha Wayne are famous for dying (quite a bit), but that also means that they weren't really characters at all. So a story like Flashpont can mess around with time and produce two new versions of the characters that actually are interesting (Thomas as Batman and Martha as the Joker).

Same thing pretty much happened with the Batman Telltale Games, where Thomas Wayne was eventually revealed to be quite the slimeball and criminal.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97305: Mar 1st 2019 at 3:02:24 AM

Would Uncle Ben fit in that category?

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#97306: Mar 1st 2019 at 4:56:42 AM

[up]yeah and Abe Ben sur or magneto wife, they exist for one thing and one thing alone: to fucking die for their characters.

I think mar vell is kinda hilarious because he a súper héroe who die of cancer, it feel so....normal and out of nowhere.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Zanthype from The Tardis Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#97307: Mar 1st 2019 at 5:10:48 AM

It's bizarre how much flack Captain Marvel is getting for being "too political," when by all accounts so far the only thing remotely "political" about it is that she's a woman. And it's ridiculous that Brie's statements about wanting her press events to include everyone are making people fly off the handle. So much drama and anger over this. I swear, Chris Evans and Mark Ruffalo post more politics on their social media accounts in a day than Brie does in a couple of weeks. Those guys are extremely left and very, very vocal about it, but I don't see anyone boycotting the overtly political Captain America films, or anything with the Hulk in it. The double standards are strong with the haters.

"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#97308: Mar 1st 2019 at 5:52:50 AM

"ARGH! Politics in my MCU!!!"

"What's your favorite MCU movie anyway?"

"Civil War lol"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97309: Mar 1st 2019 at 6:01:15 AM

Extremely left? Since when is being for equality an "extremely" left position=

They get their share of attacks too, but it is just harder to get people to jump on the hate train with established male stars. It is easier with Brie Larson.

Zanthype from The Tardis Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#97310: Mar 1st 2019 at 6:08:44 AM

That was more in response to Mark's Facebook and some of his stances and canidates that he promotes that are controversial even on the Democratic side, not just being for equality in general.

"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."
J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#97311: Mar 1st 2019 at 6:19:48 AM

[up][up] Actually, Nitro was responsible for Mar-vell's death in a roundabout way. He stole a canister of nerve gas, Cap fought him and in the melee the canister broke open, and Mar-Vell had to use his bare hands to reseal it, but the toxic chemicals infected him, only his nega-bands allowed him to keep living for so long. So Nitro's responsible for Cap's Death AND Civil War (which also makes this Hostess Twinkie ad a "Funny Aneurysm" Moment :

http://www.comicbooktidbits.com/Expansion_files/Captain%20Marvel%20Dies%20For%20a%20Twinkie.htm

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#97312: Mar 1st 2019 at 6:57:38 AM

For a somewhat obscure Marvel villain, Nitro's had a surprisingly significant impact on the Marvel verse. Heck, in the Wolverine tie-in for Civil War, Nitro outright brags about it to the ones writing his checks. And yes, the fact that he bragged about what he did in Stamford says everything you need to know about what kind of person Nitro is.

Edited by M84 on Mar 1st 2019 at 10:59:29 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#97313: Mar 1st 2019 at 7:02:01 AM

Logan even claims (to himself) that Nitro has probably killed more people than him. And considering how old Logan is that's scary.

Edited by windleopard on Mar 1st 2019 at 7:02:11 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97314: Mar 1st 2019 at 7:17:41 AM

I think among the characters on the lower side of the Super Weight scale, the Punisher is the one with the highest bodycount.

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#97315: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:15:37 AM

[up][up][up] Makes you wonder why he hasnt been put in the MCU yet. Maybe after Infinity War wraps up.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97316: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:32:31 AM

[up] He kind of technically has been or at least a villain with the same superpower in Agents of SHIELD.

Also, Captain Marvel Magic Eye stuff. See if you can tell what the hell they are.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 1st 2019 at 8:39:42 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97317: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:39:33 AM

Well, they changed his name to keep their options open but yes, in a way Nitro is already in the MCU. Currently trapped in the giant Pokeball.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97318: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:40:34 AM

> Currently trapped in the giant Pokeball.

What type of Pokemon is he?

He sounds Like Dark Type

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97319: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:43:56 AM

[up] The exploding type. Very short tempered in general.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97320: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:44:54 AM

So Fire type then

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97321: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:45:29 AM

You guys mean that Chinese guy from Season 1 with the power of turning his skin into fried shrimp?

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#97322: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:49:19 AM

Captain Marvel seems to be doing well in IMAX presales.

Apparently the tracking for the North American box office is going as high as 150 million. If it goes any highernote  it'll get into smash hit territory. And it only has to reach it's older tracking numbers of 120 million.

Makes me wonder if the backlash might be backfiring. Ie the people who are participating likely never would of gone to see it no matter what, and it's mostly just drawing more attention to the movie and for every person it sways to not see the movie it draws in 2 or 3 more who only end up seeing the movie because everyone was talking about it.

Edited by Falrinn on Mar 1st 2019 at 1:45:13 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#97323: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:53:14 AM

[up][up][up]Not really. Explosion is a Normal type move. And most of the Pokemon who learn Explosion naturally aren't Fire-types.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97324: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:54:17 AM

There's No Such Thing as Bad Publicity.

Or, as the rules of the internet puts it: "The more you hate something, the stronger it gets."

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97325: Mar 1st 2019 at 8:58:59 AM

Nope the guy from the first season was Torch. They even gave him the name. Nitro expy turned up in season 4.

And yes, I am wondering too if we currently see the Streisand effect in the work. The more people scream that people shouldn't watch it, the more people pay attention to it.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 1st 2019 at 8:59:48 AM


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