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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#97176: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:07:17 PM

[up]x4 - Assuming said movie isn’t an overt political statement, which it probably isn’t. Speaking of, London premiere is apparently today.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97177: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:09:21 PM

Lets try not to lose out on a good movie experiance here.

It’s Marvel they’ve perfected a home-run formula, it will certainly be a good watch.

Feige didn’t fight for this movie for nothing after all.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97178: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:09:57 PM

Modern Family is the reason my mom can now know that some of her family members are gay or bisexual, because it said something without beating her to death with it. The conversations that came from it are good ones, not arguments.
That doesn't mean the show isn't political, that just means that the show is subtle. And Modern Family, by showing a gay couple with the exact same issues and problems as the other couples, is political.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#97179: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:11:42 PM

[up][up]Any clue when the embargo on reviews lifts given said premier? I’m gonna choose to be optimistic here.

[up]Political and overtly political are not the same, and conflating the two feels a bit dishonest.

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 27th 2019 at 4:11:56 AM

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#97180: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:13:27 PM

Definitions of what is “overt” are very subjective though. What’s mild to me and subtle but noticeable to my centrist siblings would be an anvil to my Rush Limbaugh listening dad.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97181: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:24:21 PM

I'm going to completely ignore all professional reviews for this film and do my best to ignore user reviews as well. I won't be able to ignore the general buzz, but I'm hoping to get as little of that as possible.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#97182: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:27:56 PM

[up][up] That's a good point. For example I've seen plenty of instances where a character was revealed as gay and it's treated by some like an anvil even though in terms of narrative flow it's barely a passing mention.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97183: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:30:45 PM

I saw a cartoon where a character reveals she’s gender-fluid & just spends a single minute explaining what that means to her confused compatriots.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97184: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:38:00 PM

[up]Not sure that's the best exemple: cartoons are primarily aimed at kids, it is generally for the best that they aren't too subtle.

Edited by HailMuffins on Feb 27th 2019 at 6:38:10 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97185: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:38:18 PM

It’s not a kids cartoon though.

Though I had no issue with it, just saying that that general minute already has people crying out “sjw pandering” & stuff.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 27th 2019 at 1:39:16 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97187: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:41:37 PM

Ohh which one was it?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97188: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:43:01 PM

Roosterteeth’s newest cartoon, gen:Lock.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97189: Feb 27th 2019 at 1:51:52 PM

Well, that just makes me want to see it more now, considering how very few characters in fiction are genderfluid.

I actually hope that Loki is more genderfluid in his Disney+ show. I really hope they play around with him being a shapeshifter, rather than just a generic "magician."

Edited by alliterator on Feb 27th 2019 at 1:52:34 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97190: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:00:32 PM

Said character in question is named Val/entina, going by Val when feeling like a guy & Valentina nene feeling like a girl.

Also the show is sci-if & set in the future so they can pretty much change sexes whenever they feeling either.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 27th 2019 at 2:23:25 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#97191: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:21:06 PM

You mean sexes right? They already change genders as is just by being genderfluid.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#97192: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:24:14 PM

Right, right yeah that.

We’ve already seen what they look like as a guy & chick.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#97193: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:30:32 PM

Quick comments on the last couple pages:

It feels like every couple (dozen) pages we have the same discussion on the distinction between The Ultimates 2015 team and Ultimate Marvel.

I find when someone complains about having to hear diversity concerns that people actually live through, they're just showing their own weakness. That's your struggle? Sorry you can't easily tune out the real world.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#97194: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:42:07 PM

You guys have been busy, eh.

I scrolled through all that and I got reminded of She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. This is a show that I think my personal respect for what it's trying to do will outweigh my personal enjoyment of it. I fully acknowledge and respect the fact that it was not made to appeal to cishet white boys like me, nor should it really be trying to. Young girls and LGBTQIA+ folk need solid media delivering solid representation for them. So good on Noelle Stevenson and co. for their efforts.

Anyway! I don't have much of anything interesting to add to the Captain Marvel/Brie Larson debacle that hasn't been said before other than I'm quite excited for the movie and Brie has my respect. It's like Thor said, life is about growth, it's about change. And lord knows the MCU/superhero genre could use some change.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#97195: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:47:00 PM

While, obviously, the movie isn't out yet, does anyone else think that Carol will have to charge herself up to take on Thanos?

There's a clear difference in power levels from Carol fighting on the train and Super Saiyan Carol fighting in space.

Do you think she'll get a supercharge from absorbing the energy of Thor's lightning?

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#97196: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:47:15 PM

[up][up][up]I stand by my initial confusion of the two teams, but the matter was clarified, and that letter doesn’t stand for France. So it’s all good.

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 27th 2019 at 5:47:30 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97197: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:50:43 PM

[up]x4 So basically the new She-Ra is a show you respect more than you actually like. Did I get that right?

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#97198: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:51:24 PM

[up]Just wanted to say: Entrapta ftw. [tup]

Edited by Guy01 on Feb 27th 2019 at 2:51:36 AM

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#97200: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:53:37 PM

She-Ra character. And yes, [up][up][up]is about right. Then again, I'm only a few episodes in. Should fix that.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)

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