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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97001: Feb 22nd 2019 at 12:45:14 PM

I'm starting to feel as if I need to drop this thread for my own sanity for the next two weeks.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97002: Feb 22nd 2019 at 1:05:41 PM

Not a bad idea I suppose

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97004: Feb 22nd 2019 at 1:08:04 PM

It's the reactions I imagine

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97005: Feb 22nd 2019 at 1:08:15 PM

Because they don't want to read more Captain Marvel spoilers.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97006: Feb 22nd 2019 at 1:11:12 PM

I'm not highlighting spoilers, but avoiding them in terms of context is going to become very difficult. Is it really so difficult to leave off posting anything spoilery until after opening weekend? Heck, I'm even paranoid about reviews!

Everything I'm seeing and hearing about Captain Marvel makes me more and more certain that I'm going to absolutely love it, but I'm afraid someone is going to ruin it for me.

Edited by Fighteer on Feb 22nd 2019 at 4:12:47 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#97007: Feb 22nd 2019 at 1:12:13 PM

The Supreme Intelligence female? That's certainly a new take.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97009: Feb 22nd 2019 at 3:12:10 PM

Maybe it is time to open a separate discussion for Captain Marvel....

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Screaming Into The Void
#97010: Feb 22nd 2019 at 3:21:25 PM

[up][up]Clearly they know what the people want.

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#97011: Feb 22nd 2019 at 6:17:05 PM

This thread managed to behave itself avoiding spoilers for Infinity War until like, a month after it came out. I trust that it can do the same for Captain Marvel. Just take all spoiler talk to a designated Captain Marvel spoiler thread.

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Brightness
#97012: Feb 22nd 2019 at 8:06:37 PM

I went ahead and created a spoiler thread.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97013: Feb 23rd 2019 at 12:40:14 AM

[up][up] Yes, but back then there was a separate discussion for Infinity war. I think nobody expected that there would be so much buzz around Captain Marvel that early. Usually you can wait until the week of the release to open the extra discussion with the "lesser" Marvel movies.

Edited by Swanpride on Feb 23rd 2019 at 12:41:28 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97014: Feb 23rd 2019 at 2:35:59 AM

Website We Got This Covered has a source saying it's "likely" that Hulu or FX will pick up all of the cancelled Marvel Netflix shows. Marvel is apparently in talks with both and is willing to wait the 24 months to use the characters again, which is nice.

I'm surprised that FX is in the mix, because they are cable, not streaming, but it also makes sense: once the merger goes through, Disney will own FX (just like they will own 60% of Hulu) and FX has already shown that they can do Marvel shows (Legion). It would be interesting to see a show go from Netflix to cable, though, which would necessitate commercials. I still think Hulu is probably more likely, though.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97015: Feb 23rd 2019 at 3:18:11 AM

If they do move the shows/characters, I how that they sit down and revamp the shows first. It's time for a fresh approach.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97016: Feb 23rd 2019 at 3:28:30 AM

Oh, I agree. I also think that the endings of the Daredevil Season 3 and Iron Fist Season 2 actually provide the perfect way to "revamp" those shows. For Daredevil, it's Matt, Foggy, and Karen working together again, this time with all of them knowing about Daredevil and with Iron Fist, it's Colleen Wing as the new Iron Fist, with Danny Rand and Ward on a quest to find Orson Randall / what I hope is the "Tournament of Heaven" arc.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97017: Feb 23rd 2019 at 3:59:33 AM

What I would like to see once the show are back with Disney

1. I want to see Danny and Ward on their crazy Asian adventure, maybe complete with a tournament. I don't want Danny back in New York just now, I want to see him roaming the world first.

2. I want a daughter of the dragon show.

3. I want Luke and Jessica interacting more, including Luke getting Jessica pregnant. and not just because this happens in the comics, but because I feel that they have written themselves into a corner with Jessica and having her deal with motherhood would be a good way to develop her character further. Plus, it is a theme which is so rarely explored, usually motherhood is portrayed as this great thing. I would love to see it portrayed as an angsty and live-changing experience.

4. I want Matt actually working like a lawyer. More cases please. Daredevil should be at least half of a courtroom drama.

I also wouldn't mind the characters leaving New York more often.

Edited by Swanpride on Feb 23rd 2019 at 4:00:13 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#97018: Feb 23rd 2019 at 4:17:31 AM

Also: Stilt-Man. I want to see Stilt-Man, dammit.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97019: Feb 23rd 2019 at 5:59:39 AM

[up][up]Iron Fist needs to go full Wuxia to work IMHO.

Drop the pretenses of being "gritty" and go full implausable martial arts nuttiness.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97020: Feb 23rd 2019 at 6:01:34 AM

> I want Matt actually working like a lawyer. More cases please. Daredevil should be at least half of a courtroom tdrama.

trouble is that Lawyer drama is probably deemed too boring not exciting enough

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97021: Feb 23rd 2019 at 6:08:22 AM

Bullshit. Real lawyer work is boring as all hell, lawyer dramas can be made plenty exciting, just check out Suits.

All you need is good writing, which Daredevil mostly has.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#97022: Feb 23rd 2019 at 6:15:26 AM

It's also a ratings thing as well,you'll get more tuning in for action then you will for Matt being Phoenix Wright

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#97023: Feb 23rd 2019 at 6:18:55 AM

There have been successful lawyers shows pretty much since the start of Television. There even have been shows about lawyers and/or judges dishing out their own brand of justice...the most obvious one being Dark Justice, which, after all, run for three seasons.

It actually would make WAY more sense that Matt encounters questionable dealings and criminals which can't be reigned in by the justice system through his work than him sitting on the roof, conveniently hearing someone call for help and then managing to turn up before it is too late.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97024: Feb 23rd 2019 at 6:19:37 AM

It's possible to do both.

In fact, having less fights but more money to make them look good and more time to hype them up is better than having a inconsequential brawl every episode because the algorithm demands it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013

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