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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#96926: Feb 18th 2019 at 10:35:46 PM

Wow, his name was actually Whitewash Jones. I thought you were joking and saying that a character named Jones that I missed earlier got whitewashed.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#96927: Feb 18th 2019 at 10:52:34 PM

Deadpool & Luke Cage once together fought a pimpolord gangster called the White Man who is literally just an albino guy dressed in all white.

A funny comic, it was a parody of the 70’s I think that amusingly enough had a massive impact on Deadpool himself.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 18th 2019 at 10:52:55 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96928: Feb 18th 2019 at 10:53:02 PM

.......... What’s the most offensive character in Marvel history?
Marvel history? Are we talking from the appearance of Captain America or from the Fantastic Four? Because Cap had his infamous "Slap a Jap" moments during World War II, but if we discount that, then Marvel trying out blaxploitation would be a close second: here is what the original Black Mariah looked like.

If we're talking about all comic books, well...prior to Black Lightning, DC was trying to invent a black superhero and they came up with a character that was so offensive the writer refused to write him: the Black Bomber, a racist bigot who magically transformed into a black man.

In each of the two completed Black Bomber scripts, the white bigot risks his own life to save another person whom he can't see clearly (in one case, a baby in a stroller) and then reacts in racial slur disgust when he discovers that he risked his life to save a black person. He wasn't aware that he had two identities, but each identity had a girlfriend and the ladies were aware of the change. To add final insult, the Bomber's costume was little more than a glorified basketball uniform.
DC had wanted me to take over writing the book with the third issue. I convinced them to eat the two scripts and let me start over. To paraphrase my arguments...
"Do you REALLY want DC's first black super-hero to be a white bigot?"

Edited by alliterator on Feb 18th 2019 at 10:53:30 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#96929: Feb 19th 2019 at 12:04:05 AM

Whut? That makes no sense...the character is either white or he isn't, right?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96930: Feb 19th 2019 at 12:28:50 AM

He was a white bigot who magically turned into a black superhero. Again: it was super racist.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#96931: Feb 19th 2019 at 12:54:30 AM

The part that confuses me the most is the fact that he has two girlfriends who are aware of his identity-switching, yet are apparently content to share the man AND keep him in the dark about his own transformation.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#96932: Feb 19th 2019 at 1:06:05 AM

I'm offended that his superhero costume was supposed to be a basketball uniform.

I mean really, he's so racist he even hates basketball just because there's a lot of black players?

Why don't we also add that his least favorite food is fried chicken.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 19th 2019 at 1:08:45 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#96933: Feb 19th 2019 at 1:10:51 AM

Didn't Marvel use to have Fu Manchu as a character in their universe?

Edited by RavenWilder on Feb 19th 2019 at 1:11:58 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#96934: Feb 19th 2019 at 2:04:16 AM

Yes, he was Shang-Chi's Archnemesis Dad.

I...really wish I hadn't been reminded of that.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#96935: Feb 19th 2019 at 4:58:52 AM

TIL.

Funnily enough, Fu seems far more interesting than anything else in those books.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#96937: Feb 19th 2019 at 5:15:01 AM

That was so obvious I'm surprised they even said anything about it.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#96938: Feb 19th 2019 at 7:18:54 AM

Somewhere out there a purist is raging at lack of a bathingsuit

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#96939: Feb 19th 2019 at 7:32:08 AM

Somewhere out there, a horny white dude is raging at the lack of a bathing suit and pretending he only wants it out of an interest in purism.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#96940: Feb 19th 2019 at 7:38:35 AM

And they could write entire short stories justifying the bathingsuit,among them is "She looks cooler in one!"

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96941: Feb 19th 2019 at 7:51:27 AM

Literally the only thing I wanted out of Cpt. Marvel’s costume was to adapt the bodysuit color scheme well, since imo hers is one of the best color schemes in all of comic history.

And they did that, so...

She’s still the most traditional looking superhero of the bunch, too (besides Spidey), which is something I’d be hoping to see as well.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 19th 2019 at 8:00:57 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#96942: Feb 19th 2019 at 8:32:00 AM

It is worth pointing out that the first Ms. Marvel suit with a bared midriff lasted for only 9 issues. And in her first issue, Carol was already pushing for feminist causes such as right for a fair wage and freedom to write about any topic. So yeah, anyone advocating for a return to “the good ol’ apolitical days” clearly never actually read them.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#96943: Feb 19th 2019 at 8:52:10 AM

[up][up] Yeah I rather miss the color scheme too.

Really loved the black with a lighting bolt, made for a striking design.

I'd like for it to come back in some way.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#96944: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:45:35 AM

Cloak & Dagger Season 2 trailer

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#96947: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:15:19 PM

First reactions to “Captain Marvel” are in.

“Thanos is f***ed.”

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 19th 2019 at 11:15:41 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#96948: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:21:19 PM

Alright Thanos better have that gauntlet at least somewhat fixed now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#96949: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:21:44 PM

I can only assume that means she does something comparable or exceeding Thor's Infinity War feat of surviving a direct blast from a dwarf star. Maybe she blows up the Kree's solar system, or something.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#96950: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:48:05 PM

Gwyneth Paltrow is retiring from playing Pepper, though she leaves the door open enough for a day’s filming of a cameo or such.


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