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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#96751: Feb 11th 2019 at 3:36:40 PM

I remember there was an episode of the 90's Iron Man cartoon that actually gave MODOK a tragic backstory and played his current plight for sympathy. It stood out as one of the few actually decent episodes in the absolutely awful first season in the show, especially since MODOK was mostly played for laughs before and afterwards.

From what I can gather, MODOK is very rarely treated as a sympathetic character, but I think it can be done.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#96752: Feb 11th 2019 at 3:51:14 PM

Cull while a big typical strong alien at least had a chain axe to offer some variety.

Which left Glaive & Proxima to suffer the most because they are both spear-users & thus fight around the same. Its even worse in Glaive's case since we didn't visibly see his immortality, only the implication when he comes back.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#96753: Feb 11th 2019 at 3:58:42 PM

I think it's to highlight their Battle Couple nature.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#96754: Feb 11th 2019 at 4:27:15 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if Steve, Nat and Sam just blew them to bits then and there while they were down in Scotland rather than quipping about how they somehow DIDN'T want to kill them, a LOT of problems could've been avoided.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#96755: Feb 11th 2019 at 8:04:26 PM

Jessica Jones and Punisher aren't expected to be renewed by Netflix[1]

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96756: Feb 11th 2019 at 8:09:52 PM

I saw it coming, but it still hurt. Like watching a meteor slowly descend.

Goodbye, the best collection of superhero shows on tv (sort of)...

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#96757: Feb 11th 2019 at 8:33:53 PM

I mean, M.O.D.O.K might look goofy in comics and cartoons, but if you think about it, his nature is very disturbing, and someone like him would look amazingly creepy in live action.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96758: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:06:39 PM

I mean, Jessica Jones Season 3 hasn't even come out yet, so we know Netflix is doing this simply because they are Marvel productions, rather than out of any viewer-based decision.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#96759: Feb 11th 2019 at 9:38:10 PM

M.O.D.O.K. stands for Mobile Organism Designed Only for Killing. It was originally M.O.D.O.C. (Mobile Organism Designed Only for Computing) but he changed it after his transformation into a biological psychic supercomputer drove him nuts and he slaughtered his bosses at A.I.M. who did that to him. Basically he decided that the only thing his new psychic powers and brain processing power were good for was killing people.

Yeah, he's pretty creepy.

Edited by M84 on Feb 12th 2019 at 1:39:55 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#96761: Feb 12th 2019 at 9:48:13 AM

more like M.O.D.O.R.K

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#96762: Feb 12th 2019 at 9:49:02 AM

[up][up]I like that, that's a good influence to draw from for stories about a character rediscovering their humanity and history.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 12th 2019 at 10:49:18 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#96763: Feb 12th 2019 at 10:00:37 AM

I can see the film having Captain Marvel introduced to us as a stone-cold ruthless human war machine working for the Kree and as the story progresses she has flashes (probably literal flashbacks) to her human past as her veneer of cold-blooded war-machine starts to crack over and she fights against her Kree "programming".

It'd form a pretty compelling arc and a relatively unique one for a MCU hero thus far.

Edited by Gaon on Feb 12th 2019 at 10:01:04 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#96764: Feb 12th 2019 at 10:13:49 AM

It is interesting that they have yet to reveal that the Kree are evil in the trailers. Between this and Mysterio being portrayed as a hero in the Far From Home trailer, I wonder if these two movies are going to be a pair.

Kind of like how Ragnarok and Black Panther both focused on colonization as a theme, maybe Captain Marvel and Far From Home will have story similarities. Both movies have one bleedingly obvious twist that they don't spoil in the trailer but everyone can see coming, but maybe there's a second, much bigger twist that the first twist is supposed to distract us from.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#96765: Feb 12th 2019 at 10:27:08 AM

It'll be interesting if they attempt to draw inspiration from within by looking at The Winter Soldier.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#96766: Feb 12th 2019 at 11:17:56 AM

It seems Hulu is open to bringing back the canceled Netflix shows[1]

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#96767: Feb 12th 2019 at 11:26:19 AM

I'm not gonna get excited too soon.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#96768: Feb 12th 2019 at 11:28:07 AM

Even because that's not what they said. They just said a vague "we're open to all Marvel properties". Not even mention Netflix.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#96769: Feb 12th 2019 at 12:30:24 PM

And they don't stream outside the USA, so that doesn't change a lick for me.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96770: Feb 12th 2019 at 1:03:37 PM

The trailers -especially the earlier ones - are kinda doing everything but outright stating it, though. The newer ones are more strictly focusing on the Skrulls, but the earlier ones barely hid the fact that she's going to be fighting the Kree eventually.

I mean, her bit about "I'm not fighting your war, I'm gonna end it" can only really be directed at the Kree and is probably a line (well, it sounds like a mashup of two different lines) from late in the movie.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 12th 2019 at 1:04:14 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#96771: Feb 12th 2019 at 1:04:55 PM

> And they don't stream outside the USA, so that doesn't change a lick for me.

Disney owning a significant share in them may change that hopefully

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96772: Feb 12th 2019 at 1:27:48 PM

Yeah, I believe that Disney has stated that they want to take Hulu international, probably as a way of showing their original Disney+ shows international, too. (Much like the way that DC Universe is using Netflix to have their shows aired internationally.)

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#96773: Feb 12th 2019 at 1:30:03 PM

However region blocking means it will be netflix's selection if your outside the US (hint it's terrible and really not worth it)

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96774: Feb 12th 2019 at 2:24:21 PM

I believe that's what I just wrote, that Netflix would air them internationally, but in the US, they are part of DC Universe. (As for their quality, I enjoyed Titans and the third season of Young Justice is goddamn amazing.)


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