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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I like Infinity War but I'm not sure if I can take six hours of anything.
This song needs more love.Jesus, how do you keep your sanity?
My classes clock at an hour and an half each, and I already find them dreadful.
Edited by HailMuffins on Feb 7th 2019 at 11:36:07 AM
The bit that I'll find hard to top will actually be the magic duel between Thanos and Strange.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."...Was it? Tony went berserk and tried for revenge just like Zemo hoped, and the Avengers were utterly destroyed.
Sure, no one died like he'd hoped, but he got exactly what he wanted out of it.
I do agree that people thinking Thanos is right is ridiculous.
One Strip! One Strip!
I'm referring to this part.
Everett Ross: So how does it feel? To spend all that time, all that effort, and to see it fail so spectacularly?
Zemo: Did it?
And then in the following scene it seems like he's right, until Cap calls to reconcile with Tony, who accepts his apology.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 6th 2019 at 8:00:51 AM
Really it only failed because Cap & Bucky double-teamed Tony.
Tony had every intent on killing Bucky & so he had to be beaten into submission & then run far away from to a place he can't track.
Zemo's plan worked pretty well, he just never expected Cap to be stronger than Iron Man.
Now if Tony actually backed down & realized what he was doing was wrong on his own consensual accord, then that would have been the definitive victory over Zemo.
Edited by slimcoder on Feb 6th 2019 at 8:03:42 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."We won't know until we see him again, but considering he was willing to kill a lot of people who had nothing to do with his Vendetta to accomplish his goals (even if he did feel guilty for getting T'chaka killed) then I'm guessing it's the second one.
One Strip! One Strip!Zemo kinda succeeded and kinda didn't.
On one hand, he did technically break up the Avengers, which was his stated goal. Cap's half of the Avengers had to go on the run and hide from international courts, which sucks for them. Tony's relationship with Steve wasn't completely shattered, but it was wrecked enough that Tony could hardly bring himself to call Steve even under threat of world-ending peril. In that sense, Zemo sorta succeeded.
On the other hand, the Avengers' breakup was largely inconsequential in the years between CW and IW. Cap's Secret Avengers kept doing missions since then without any problems that we know of, and the remaining public Avengers kept up their heroics consequence free. From that perspective, Zemo's plan was a failure.
I think the unavoidable fact is, Tony was completely willing to murder Bucky.
There was no indication that he was ever gonna back down in that fight. He was gonna do it, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Had Cap not overcame him, mistakes that would have lasted forever would have been made.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."![]()
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I had a feeling the Avengers' breakup was going to be ultimately meaningless in the end when I saw exactly what the Phase 3 roadmap entailed. Only Spider-Man Homecoming and Black Panther involved characters who would be affected by the events of that film, and it was always evident that the former's conflict would be too low-scale for the Avengers' radar. Black Panther is the only film I thought capable of referencing its events more than tangentially and even then I didn't think it was likely as it had its work cut out for it establishing its own mythos.
Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 6th 2019 at 1:09:58 PM
I like the idea that in the aftermath of Endgame, some of the Avengers are dead, some retire, and the rest scatter to make the world a better place in their own ways. Meanwhile Ross - fully disillusioned with the Avengers - decides to make his own government mandated superteam with blackjack and hookers that he can control, leading to an adaptation of the Thunderbolts in which the idea gets hijacked by supervillains Treasure Island style.
The biggest difference I can think of is that Tony would know where Vision is right off the bat, thus allowing him to be both in safe custody already and also warned slightly ahead of time that he was being hunted, possibly avoiding the entire fight in Europe.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 6th 2019 at 11:01:02 AM

I'll second that notion.