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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It was not.
The point was actually the complete opposite: that thanks to the Snap, The 'Verse has been put in danger to new threats that it would have otherwise been safe from. That Thanos has caused the universe to erupt into problems, not that he was somehow trying to stop them.
Even from the trailer, we know that something else is happening: Cap and Co. are suiting up to fight somebody, and if Thor is going rogue to fight Thanos it's definitely not going to be him.
There being another antagonist we don't know about is probable, because this is an action movie, Thanos - despite not being beaten - was the primary antagonist of the last film, and no film studio is going to fill two hours plus with action against the literal same threat all the action was geared towards in the previous film.
Even if it's the same overall fight, there's going to distinctions: that's why I brought up Star Wars.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 4th 2019 at 9:38:15 AM
So it's just occurred to me that the snap wipes out half the life in the universe,so that includes Thanos's army that he used to subjugate worlds,undoing the snap means bring them back as well,so the threat is now Thanos's leaderless army rather then Thanos himself
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverSomeone randomly split MCU movies into four groups of five and asked people to choose which group they would be stuck with.
I thought this was interesting because it made me consider both the highs and lows of each one.
I miiiiiight go with C because of Got G 2 and Homecoming, but TIH weighs it down.
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)Group C for me...has two Captain America movies, Got G Vol 2 and I quite enjoyed homecoming, too.
A > C > B > D
A has three great movies and two mediocre movies. C has two Cap films, a good Spider-Man film, a meh GOTG film, and I don't hate Hulk as much as some others. B has two of my absolute favorite MCU movies but also two of my least favorites. D has one great movie and one good movie, but also one mediocre one and two that are downright awful.
I think I'm gonna settle for C > A > B > D. Got G 2 and Homecoming I love, Civil War and TFA I also enjoyed well enough. TIH is meh but it drags that group down less than TDW and Age of Ultron drag down B, which is otherwise filled with three pretty damn good movies. A has Ragnarok and Got G 1 which I also love, just not as much as C's two high points for me. I'd rather watch any of the other three (even though I think they're pretty enjoyable but not great) in A than TIH, which I guess makes it a less wide spectrum of quality IMO. D has Black Panther which is awesome and Infinity War which is also pretty good, but the other three are iffy at best.
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)Side A for me. A good sampler of the MCU, I think. I'm inclined to say I like GOTG Vol. 2 more overall, but that I could watch the first movie more often more easily.
If you could swap out either TFA or Civil War for Winter Soldier it'd be C. Hell, if you could swap out Doctor Strange for Winter Soldier, it might be D.
Side B (hey, I’m the first one to choose it!), because it contains Winter Soldier, easily my favourite MCU movie and one I never get tired of watching. If I could only watch one group of MCU movies, it has to be the group that includes Winter Soldier. B also has Ant-Man and the Wasp, which is just so much freaking fun. I’m not saying it’s the best of the 2018 Marvel movies, but it’s been my most fun to rewatch. Those two make up for the group also containing two of Marvel’s worst movies. And I even like some of the bits of Dark World that involve Loki.
Side C is second, because Civil War and Avengers are about tied for my second/third favourite Marvel movie, but A dorsn’t have any other movies I really care about, while C has Spider-Man Homecoming which was pretty fun (if too Stark-heavy). And honestly, I liked Incredible Hulk pretty well - not a great movie, but better than Iron Man 2, Thor: TDW or Ant-Man.
Then Side A, because of Avengers.
Last Side D, because it doesn’t have any movies I flat-out love to rewatch. Black Panther was good, and I saw it twice in theatres, but I don’t feel a strong desire to rewatch it. The other movies in group D I don’t even like much, except for a couple bits in Thor, and Iron Man 2 I deeply dislike.
My choices are influenced by not liking GOTG (side 1 or 2) really much at all. It feels too juvenile and I don’t like the way they wrote Gamora.
Edited by Galadriel on Feb 4th 2019 at 8:42:11 AM
So, I'm just going to say "fuck it" and go with Side ABCD. Like, all of them. Because I am a person and I choose not to play this game of "Which would you choose" because I like all of them.
So, yeah. Count me out of this The Lady or the Tiger stuff.
Edited by alliterator on Feb 4th 2019 at 10:14:29 AM
It’s a famous short story
centering around an arena where those accused of a crime must pick one of two doors, receiving at random either marriage or death.

I don't think we're going to get an outside-context villain in Endgame; it makes no sense and would be incredibly jarring to the audience. We've been set up and stoked to demand an answer to, "How will the Avengers fix what happened in Infinity War?" We've been shown their despair and their desperation as they try to come up with a plan. Notably:
Everything is very deliberately being left open, but we're being given this pared-down cast for a reason. We're being shown these specific characters for a reason. The resolution will involve them and only them, up until they flip the switch to reset things. Thanos isn't going to pull an EU Palpatine and say, "I did this because there's a worse threat out there." That would be stupid and throw away everything they've been building towards.
We also haven't seen the full payoff of Strange's prediction. My theory is that someone else will get the Gauntlet, like Nebula, and the third act conflict will be stopping that character from making things even worse, with the ultimate conclusion that the only way to save the universe for good is to destroy the Stones.
There's also all the time travel stuff, which I haven't forgotten about but am very leery of.
Edited by Fighteer on Feb 4th 2019 at 6:42:26 AM
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