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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#96151: Feb 3rd 2019 at 4:11:17 PM

Well, in the Endgame TV spot, we saw a bit with Thor on Thanos' farm. Don't know how that's going to go. Maybe Thor goes rogue to confront Thanos on his own?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96152: Feb 3rd 2019 at 4:20:28 PM

If Infinity War was largely about the Guardians and yes sure you would have Eternity because the guardian films lets them explore the weirder said of Marvel's universe,as it is Infinity War is more of an Avengers movies so there won't be as greater focus of mythos,hence why Thanos's obsession with Lady Death was written out.
Death was written out because they wanted to focus solely on Thanos as the villain. Including Eternity as a cameo wouldn't take up much time — nor would it be "too weird" for an Avengers movie, considering a huge chunk of the first film was, essentially, a GOTG film. At this moment, there is nothing "too weird" for an Avengers movie.

Also, goddamn, Captain Marvel trailer looking awesome.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#96153: Feb 3rd 2019 at 4:45:45 PM

I think I will dream tonight of "higher, further, faster"

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96154: Feb 3rd 2019 at 6:49:46 PM

Avengers trailer in a nutshell: everyone is traumatized and making bad decisions.

Captain Marvel trailer in a nutshell: higher, further, faster.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 3rd 2019 at 6:50:07 AM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#96155: Feb 3rd 2019 at 6:53:43 PM

I don't think it's automatically a bad decision for Thor to try and go kick Thanos's ass. The Infinity Gauntlet is toast and Stormbreaker >>> Infinity Gauntlet.

My various fanfics.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#96156: Feb 3rd 2019 at 6:56:29 PM

I recall the writers saying at a Q & A that Stormbreaker isn't necessarily stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet; it's more Thanos had only seconds to react and thus his attack was unfocused.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96157: Feb 3rd 2019 at 6:59:12 PM

Besides, abandoning all your friends to go on a revenge murder mission against a guy who can control the cosmos is a sentence full of bad ideas.

If that actually happens in the beginning of the movie, anyway.

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#96158: Feb 3rd 2019 at 7:34:56 PM

Word of God is that the official trailers will not show any footage past the first act, or the first twenty minutes, I forget which. So if Thor is indeed going after Thanos in that scene, it's early and he obviously doesn't win at that point.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#96159: Feb 3rd 2019 at 7:44:06 PM

It’s gonna be interesting how this is gonna he resolved.

Especially with an antagonist who’s most likely lost all his passion.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#96160: Feb 3rd 2019 at 7:58:22 PM

I recall the writers saying at a Q & A that Stormbreaker isn't necessarily stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet; it's more Thanos had only seconds to react and thus his attack was unfocused.

I thought they said that the Infinity Gauntlet was specifically designed to have a weakness in Stormbreaker, much like how the portal machine in Avengers was weak to the Spear as a failsafe.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#96161: Feb 3rd 2019 at 8:37:38 PM

Aliterator: I disagree, there is TOO weird for avenger movie and introducing cosmic stuff is one of it, there is a reaosn they havent apear yet, thanos is sort of overton window in that regard.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96162: Feb 3rd 2019 at 8:44:16 PM

I disagree, there is TOO weird for avenger movie and introducing cosmic stuff is one of it, there is a reaosn they havent apear yet, thanos is sort of overton window in that regard.
The first Avengers movie literally ended with an invasion of Chitauri and the reveal of Thanos. I'm pretty sure "cosmic stuff" is right up the Avengers alleyway.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#96163: Feb 3rd 2019 at 8:46:01 PM

That is not weird, that is your standar alien invasion but with hero stoping, that is pretty much the end of indepence day(which is why I found emerich dislike of marvel hilarious, the avenger pretty much end with the same thing as is movie).

super duper weird entities like marvel have? waaaaaay diferent ballpark.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#96165: Feb 3rd 2019 at 8:50:26 PM

Pretty much everything is up the Avenger's alley.

They fight everybody.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#96166: Feb 3rd 2019 at 9:02:54 PM

We already have Ego the Living Planet & even then the very existence of Rocket signifies that nothing is too weird.

Anything can work.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96167: Feb 3rd 2019 at 9:10:22 PM

Especially with an antagonist who’s most likely lost all his passion.

I don’t think Thanos is going be the primary and/or sole antagonist of this one. Something’s going to shake things up, such that beating Thanos is still the primary objective but there’s something different than last time carrying the plot.

Kind of like how The Emperor is the Big Bad of the first two Star Wars trilogies, and has major or minor roles in all but one of them, but only has primary villain status in like two of them.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#96168: Feb 3rd 2019 at 9:23:01 PM

[up] Funnily enough, some have strategize there'll be a bad guy even bigger than Thanos. We got:

  • Dormammu: Recently brought up, but makes a lot of sense considering he's big and powerful enough to kill Thanos like the space cockroach he is, not to mention Dormammu has his own dimension ergo he was spared from the Snap of Judgment:
  • Annihilus: Epic, but vastly unlikely since that Disney/Fox deal isn't getting finalized until June.
  • The Annihilation Wave: Associated with Annihilus, but they could always snip out that association.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#96169: Feb 3rd 2019 at 9:39:34 PM

[up][up] A long time ago, I theorized that Strange gave Thanos the Soul Stone and ensured the latter's victory because Strange figured there might be something or someone worse than Thanos who would have dealt more damage had he, Stark, Peter, and the Guardians kept fighting Thanos, and that it would have involved the Infinity Stones.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96170: Feb 3rd 2019 at 9:58:15 PM

A long time ago, I theorized that Strange gave Thanos the Soul Stone
Which is weird, because Strange had the Time Stone.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#96171: Feb 3rd 2019 at 10:13:04 PM

[up] I'm not sure if you're joking. I meant "A long time ago" in this thread. I forgot where in this thread where I made that theory. Sorry for not clarifying it.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96172: Feb 3rd 2019 at 11:01:25 PM

...No, I meant it literally, Strange didn't have the Soul Stone, he had the Time Stone.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96173: Feb 3rd 2019 at 11:58:22 PM

[up][up][up][up] Annihilus and/or the Wave are both almost certainly not happening, because of the deal, but I've heard that theory and there might be some merit to it.

Maybe not the Annihilation Wave itself, but some horrible threat is destroying what's left of the universe, unstopped because the Snap has left everyone too weak to fight it. So they have to undo what happened before everything is lost.

Then, after they undo it, they await the threat again: and BAM! - we have the plot to the next Avengers movie after Endgame.

But if not that, I also think they might adapt the "Nebula gets the Gauntlet, but that turns out not to be a good thing" bit from the comics. My take is that they would composite it with House Of M, with Nebula as Scarlet Witch, and thus make her a lot more sympathetic than she was in the original Infinity Gauntlet story.

It's looking more likely, too, because the characters being frayed and traumatized by Infinity War seems to be an actual plot point in Endgame - Nebula getting the Gauntlet and wanting desperately to fix everything, but being compromised by her terrible past and the fact that she's Not So Stoic about what happened against Thanos, and thus altering reality in ways that only make things worse, would definitely work as a plot.

Honestly, after that trailer I'm expecting the heroes to split and someone to have a breakdown like that, going antagonist for a while. It seems that the first trailer portraying Scott as the only bright thing about the current reality was right on the money.

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#96174: Feb 3rd 2019 at 11:59:10 PM

I think they're trying to explain that they made that theory before the movie came out, when we didn't know where the Soul Stone was.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#96175: Feb 4th 2019 at 12:02:28 AM

Considering they mentioned Iron Man and the Guardians fighting against Thanos with Doctor Strange, that's unlikely.

Edit: On a second watch, trailer 2 does have them fighting together, but still, giving Thanos an Infinity stone and letting him win is unlikely without actually seeing the movie.

Edit 2: Also not mentioning the Time stone unless they somehow assume that Thanos have already taken it and then Dr Strange decides to give the Soul stone as well.

Edited by Ikedatakeshi on Feb 5th 2019 at 4:13:31 AM


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