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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Is it possible for a character to be both an Inhuman and a Mutant?
Could've been a good way to end the Iv X story: hey, there's this hybrid here who's immune to the Mist! Let's make an antidote and stop this stupid bullshit!
Cop-out? Sure, but the story was a bad idea from the concept stage, so who the hell cares.
Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 31st 2019 at 10:52:48 AM
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We had one in the form of Quicksilver and Crystal's daughter Luna. Turns out Inhuman and Mutant traits cancel each other out for the most part. She was basically an Inhuman who had to take in a lot more Terrigen Mist than usual to manifest powers in addition to never manifesting X-factor related mutation. It got so bad that she even developed an addiction to Terrigen Mist.
Edited by M84 on Feb 1st 2019 at 12:30:00 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedWait, isn't Terrigen Mist a one and done deal?
Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 31st 2019 at 1:41:51 PM
Then the Beyonder appeared in Secret Wars (1984) and he was completely different from the Beyonders. It was originally stated that the Beyonder was the embodiment of an entire separate multiverse which became self aware, then was later retconned to be a self aware Cosmic Cube, then was later retconned to be a mutant Inhuman, and then was finally retconned to be a "child unit" of the Beyonders.
As always, writers constantly ruining great, interesting concept by putting undue importance into them, as if every bloody thing needs Earth-shattering scale.
Remind me, that eveent that was going on, where the symbiontes were turned into slaves of some alien god or whatever, is it over already? 'Cause I feel like going to the Comics thread and bitching about that next.
Ugh, overexposure is ruining Carnage. He's my easily among my favorite Marvel villains but he needs to be taken in small doses. Ever since the decision was made to make him a lead Villain Protagonist of his own series, shit's gotten progressively weirder. It had to, because otherwise you just have "Carnage tries to kill people, heroes stop him, rinse and repeat."
The Carnage miniseries was pretty much 100% Carnage the way fans like him. Then Carnage U.S.A. was a little weird with him taking over a town but it was still neat. Then we had "What if Carnage fought the Microverse?" followed by "What if Carnage was a Chthonic Eldritch Horror?" and I guess now it's "Carnage wants to become a god"? The hell is that shit?
What made Carnage a fun character was the simplicity of his concept. He's a refreshing break from convoluted evil schemes carried out by master planners to put the universe in their pants or whatever. Carnage is a bad dude with a really cool powerset that's difficult to counter, and he likes to kill people. The end.
He's like a breath mint. After a complex storyline with a dozen twists and turns, you freshen your breath with something simple and easy. But now Marvel's trying to make a whole seven-course feast entirely out of breath mints.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 31st 2019 at 10:28:22 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.The one just titled "Carnage", where he's brought back from Bendis's half-assed attempt to kill him off.
It's not the first miniseries that Carnage has ever had, not by a long shot. But it's the one that kicked off the modern age of Carnage comics.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Zeb Wells and Clayton Crain. Here's the Marvel Wiki's entry for its first issue
, if that helps to clarify matters.
It's a pretty fun story. Spider-Man and Iron Man set out to stop PMC douchebags from trying to make powered armor suits out of the Carnage symbiote, and the inevitable occurs.
What makes it a load of fun are some stellar character moments, as well as the dark humor on display. Wells gets Kasady and the symbiote's relationship, depicting the two reuniting like a pair of star-crossed lovers finding each other again.
Carnage's presence in a story always marks a dark tonal shift due to the nature of the character, and that too is on full display here. As one of very few supervillains to have, in his career, pushed Spider-Man so far that he would make a conscious choice to end a life (even if he did ultimately go back on it), Carnage changes the atmosphere of a Spider-Man story like no other villain can.
It's why he's much more interesting fighting optimistic characters like Spidey than dark and edgy antiheroes like Venom, because he challenges Spidey's M.O. so much more than he does Venom's. Even Spidey's ever-present sense of comedy shifts when Carnage is around; in this miniseries, Spidey straight up makes a joke about suicide, and it's weirdly one of the funniest jokes I've ever heard from him.
When Stark is trying to determine the color of the symbiote tendril they're analyzing, red or black, Spidey suggests that if it's red, he might just kill himself and save his opponent the trouble. "If I spin a web-noose, it will dissolve in an hour so nobody has to know I took the easy way out. I'm trusting you to keep my secret."
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Carnage is a superpowered Serial Killer. If he's not a Knight of Cerebus in a Spidey story, he's not being used right.
What I like best about that storyline is the way Spidey freaks out the moment he finds out Cletus is still alive. He didn't freak out about the Carnage symbiote itself — he knows which of the two is the greater threat.
It's kind of funny that Carnage might be the one Symbiote that is in a truly symbiotic relationship with its host.
Edited by M84 on Feb 1st 2019 at 2:11:21 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised

Edited by M84 on Jan 31st 2019 at 7:58:34 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised