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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95876: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:19:24 AM

Neither did mine.

Then again I'm a '97 kid, so that doesn't mean shit tongue.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 29th 2019 at 4:19:43 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#95877: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:23:51 AM

Pew Research is a well respected institution whose entire purpose is data analysis. For purposes of such data analysis, the cutoff is 1996.
The United States Census Bureau, which is also a well respected institution whose entire purpose is collecting and analyzing data, marks the cutoff at 2000. But it really doesn't matter, because "Millennials" are a made up group with made-up start and end dates, as is pretty much every generation.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 29th 2019 at 11:25:45 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#95878: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:33:49 AM

I assume, then, that the millennial test is composed of a single question, and a follow up:

Who loves orange soda?

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#95879: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:36:26 AM

No human being on this planet. Is that a Millenial test or a Skrull test?

Edited by Gaon on Jan 29th 2019 at 11:36:44 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#95880: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:37:32 AM

[up][up]The follow up question being, of course, "Is it true?".

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#95881: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:40:09 AM

Soda is gross.

I said what I said.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95882: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:45:43 AM

Generation group is more of a marketing thing than anything.

Companies love to put people on boxes so that it makes selling stuff easier.

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#95883: Jan 29th 2019 at 11:53:55 AM

The follow up question being, of course, "Is it true?".

I do, I do, I do~ooo!

God, that takes me back. Y'know, it's only as I look back that I realize that Kenan and Kel was probably sponsored by either Coke or Pepsi, and that line burned into everyone's mind is effective goddamn product placement.

Either way, Saturday Night Live missed a golden nostalgia opportunity when they hired Kenan but not Kel to join their cast.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 29th 2019 at 12:56:14 PM

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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#95884: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:06:55 PM

To be honest, I feel like nothing really highlights just how meaningless the term 'millenial' is now like the arguments over who counts as a millenial. Plus, a lot of people have just started using it to describe "anyone younger than me I want to be condescending towards."

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#95885: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:08:39 PM

As far as I have notice, it is mostly used by people in the age range of 30-40, sometimes even 50ish.....who, at the same time, are also quite condescending towards the elderly.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#95886: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:11:34 PM

Its amazing all this came just because I called a shitty character a hipster. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#95887: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:11:57 PM

[up]x4 -I’ve discussed it with people before, (barring Keenan’s own fears that he was ruining SNL since he was the first and last All That alumni to be on there) but the thinking was that Keenan could be funny without Kel, but Kel couldn’t be nearly as funny without Keenan. That was my view on it.

Edited by Beatman1 on Jan 29th 2019 at 3:12:19 PM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#95888: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:14:33 PM

It was used as a term of condescension against younger people when people first came up with it, but that was like ten years ago now, hence why those same people are now 40-50. I don't think it's a name anyone would have really chosen for themselves, but it's... convenient, and it is a new millennium one way or another, so...

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#95889: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:25:06 PM

This thread has become so incredibly magnetic to off-topic xD

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95890: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:25:47 PM

[up][up][up]I've watched the BR dub and never learned their names, which one is the fatso and which is the guy with dreads?

Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 29th 2019 at 5:30:44 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#95891: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:27:23 PM

Kenan is the fat one,Kell is the thin one

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#95892: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:42:58 PM

[up][up][up]Eh. Nature of any reasonably active thread. It'll come back around.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#95893: Jan 29th 2019 at 12:45:56 PM

"Is that a Millenial test or a Skrull test?"

a hydra one, and you failed, so please report to whitehall inmedialy.

"I said what I said. "

I spot the skrull!

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Shake-Master Since: Dec, 2013
#95894: Jan 29th 2019 at 3:15:12 PM

Eventually Marvel is going to need to bite the bullet and stop making Magneto a holocaust survivor. They got away with it for the first X-Men series, but soon they're going to have the character pushing 90.

If Magneto is the character who is holding it back from making the mutants a recent thing, then changing which genocide he is a victim of seems like the easiest solution.

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#95895: Jan 29th 2019 at 3:19:03 PM

They could just give him a supernaturally-long lifespan, and explain that as either a side-effect of his power, the result of genetic experimentation (as I believe is the case in the comics), or just have all mutants live longer than humans, and Wolverine's extremely long life is that combined with his healing factor.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jan 29th 2019 at 4:19:35 AM

Shake-Master Since: Dec, 2013
#95896: Jan 29th 2019 at 3:21:43 PM

Thats gonna make it real awkward when the characters continue to age normally as the franchise wears on.

Like how Cap is supposed to not age, but we have all clearly seen the last 10 years affect Chris Evans.

[up][up][up][up]I thought the Hydra test was just seeing if they objected to watching a Nazi get punched.

Edited by Shake-Master on Jan 29th 2019 at 3:23:07 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#95897: Jan 29th 2019 at 3:22:22 PM

> then changing which genocide he is a victim of seems like the easiest solution.

Which one?Bear in mind it's a controversial decision to use genocide in a backstory so they have tread especially carefully

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#95899: Jan 29th 2019 at 3:24:24 PM

Yeah, I think that would be a horrible idea. Magneto's entire character is fundamentally tied to the Holocaust background.

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Shake-Master Since: Dec, 2013
#95900: Jan 29th 2019 at 3:26:54 PM

No, its fundamentally tied to a campaign of ethnic cleansing against a defenceless people. The holocaust is just one example in history of this.


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