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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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I don’t think it was ever stated that the citizens universally loved Shuri.
Considering how publicly okay she is with the rest of the world, it makes sense for her to be unpopular in some circles due to living in a very nationalistic & isolated nation.
I wouldn’t mind reading some of that. I assume they think we’re all idiots.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 26th 2019 at 4:17:23 AM
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How is Shuri show to be okay with outside cultures? Like, she has an interest in American pop culture, but apart from that, she doesn't really give a damn either way. She fixed Bucky and Ross mainly cause T'Challa asked her to, not because of a deeper appreciation for and love of the outside world.
Nakia believed in breaking down barriers and using Wakandas resources to help the rest of the world, but S Huri never expressed any ideas like that.
There we go, interest in pop culture.
Because why would you show any interest in what is obviously inferior entertainment when you have Wakandan entertainment?
She’s prolly more popular with the relatively liberal or open-minded Wakandans & controversial with the more traditional ones depending on how you think a princess should act.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 26th 2019 at 4:36:00 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."With a holographic bubble-field.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.None of the Marvel movies have been that great about showing how average people live. The tv shows are a little better, but not by much. AoS doesn't focus on civilians much, the Netflix shows are a bit weird about how much the films impact them, and Runaways and Cloak and Dagger are pretty unconnected to the rest of the universe.
I would kill for a slice of life show set in Wakanda.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.If you know the history of India and Pakistan going back to the partition, you do know that there's some residual hostility there, right? Ethnicity, nationality, and ancestry are not a simple equation. Broad statements like that and casting Indians as Pakistanis as if they're interchangeable would just be courting further controversy on Marvel's part.
I wouldn't mind a story about someone who grew up in Wakanda but not in the Royal Family. Any characters from the comics who might fit the bill who we could follow? Even if they were to become a superhero later?
Edited by Unsung on Jan 26th 2019 at 9:56:13 AM
That wasn't what was being argued. Someone asked "Don't they share ethnic groups?" and someone else replied with "Both Indians and Pakistanis would disagree with that." Which is, again, untrue, because they do share ethnic groups, even if the countries have a history of animosity towards one another. For example: a lot of Pakistanis have Indian ancestry and vice versa.
In any case, saying "only a Pakistani actress" can play Kamala Khan is just silly, considering her current voice actress is Iranian-American.
People are generally more accepting of voice actors not matching the race, ethnicity or nationality of the character they are voicing. That or they don't typically bother to even know. Live action actors have gotten more scrutiny as of late. That the actress you proposed is also half white will not go unnoticed either.
This is why you can't just cherrypick half the argument to respond to. Shake-Master's post that you quoteblocked existed in context — by taking it out of context, you've invented an argument that nobody was even having. The original point was not that they share no ethnic groups, but that saying that sharing ethnic groups made them interchangeable is a good way to start a fight between people of two countries with a long, troubled history. Nobody said that there was no ethnic overlap at all.
You don't have to, it doesn't affect the performance, but it could affect someone's career, so what's the harm in trying?
Edited by Unsung on Jan 26th 2019 at 10:38:59 AM
You are assuming a point was being made when it really wasn't. RavenWilder was just asking a question, not trying to make a point. Shake-Master's response wasn't "They aren't interchangeable" but rather "Don't bring up the fact that they share ethnic groups, because India and Pakistan hate one another." Again: that's not the point you are trying to make, which is actually one I agree with. I took nothing out of context at all.
Edited by alliterator on Jan 26th 2019 at 9:44:38 AM
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This argument would maybe fly if one group is considerably more disadvantaged compared to the other. Like: I get the argument to cast people who are impaired for the few roles which exist for them (or at least go through an effort to let them audition), because there is only a small pool of potential roles for them in the first place, while an actor who is not impaired has a lot of options to pick from. I don't get the argument that an actress from country X shouldn't portray a character from country Y, because it works in both directions. Next time there is maybe a role for a character from country X and this time around the actress from country Y gets cast.
Case to point: The actor who in Ao S portrays the Mexican Inhuman Joey, is actually not from Mexico, but from Columbia. But the actress they cast for Yoyo, who is Columbian within universe, is from Mexico.
Edited by Swanpride on Jan 26th 2019 at 9:46:22 AM

I thought everyone in Wakanda loved Shuri? Its just M'Baku and the Jabari, who are all old men yelling at a teenage girl to respect her elders, dagnabbit.