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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#95451: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:06:22 AM

Award shows in general are stupid. It's just nice to see new ground broken.

This is apparently the first ever Superhero film nominated for best picture, so clearly the Oscars committee saw something in it that other films like Infinity War or others didn't have.

And if it was just about "black people liked it", then The Hate U Give would've been nominated for something, or they would've just been fine with stopping at nominating Blackkklansman.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jan 23rd 2019 at 7:30:54 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95452: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:16:03 AM

[up][up][up]But what pisses me off this time is because Swanpride is completely right: Black Panther isn't being nominated by its merits as a movie, it isn't even being nominated by its cultural importance, its being nominated so the Academy can point to it and say "See, we're not racist! We put Black Panther in the running for Best Movie!"

Let's all be honest here: d'y'all really, sincerely thinks the Academy cares about the points and discussions Black Panther uses for its story? The very same Academy that put Green Book, one of the pinnacles of "White person saves black people from racism", as deserving of the same glorified position?

Mother's Basement made a video about it last, but if you don't have the time to watch it all, the point is that the Oscars are not a popularity contest or a prize of recognition for movies that push forward the medium: it's one giant wanking session for the industry.

It's why mediocre shit like The Boss Baby gets nominated for Best Animated Movie, when far more imaginative Asian and European animations barely get a chance to join. It's why it took 40 year, 40 sodding plodding years for Roman Polaskin to be barred from the Awards, despite being a convicted fugitive rapist.

So yeah, the Oscars are bullshit, everything the Academy decides on is bullshit, and I refuse to glorify it any further by treating it as something worth of serious discussion, so call me when we decide to talk about something worth talking, like Vision and Wanda favorite sexual positions.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:16:26 AM

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#95454: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:48:13 AM

You know, if Wanda and Vision marry each other and Tony is vision father(so to speak) would that make tony and wanda family?.

.....

that is sitcom material waiting to be wrote.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#95455: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:49:32 AM

The family tree was just as confusing in the comics, though it had Hank Pym in the role of Ultron's dad (making him Vision's grandpa) instead of Tony Stark.

Although since Vision in the MCU was a joint project between Tony and Bruce, they would both be his dads.

Edited by M84 on Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:50:21 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#95456: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:56:27 AM

Vision has 3 daddys, counting Banner and Thor.

... Now that I think about it, Ultton counts both as his daddy and his brother. Family reunion going to be akward.

Edit: [nja]

Edited by eligram on Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:57:15 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#95457: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:56:32 AM

@Hail Muffins Well, there is some light in the shadow due to the nominations of Roma.

[up] Vision has way more daddies...there is is Jarvis (plus human Jarvis as granddaddy), Tony (who is both his daddy AND his granddaddy due to creating Jarvis), Bruce, Thor and let's not forget Ultron.

He also has a mommy in doctor Cho.

Edited by Swanpride on Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:58:25 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95458: Jan 23rd 2019 at 6:00:31 AM

I have a headcannon that Wanda is really into BDSM. Her powers make it really easy.

[up]Frankly, I had some of those before, and all I did was get burned.

I'm fully convinced at this point that the onlu way to fix the Oscars is to burn everything to the ground and make snowmen with the ashes, kind of like how Capcom fixes Resident Evil whenever it comes back to being shit.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#95459: Jan 23rd 2019 at 6:06:40 AM

I have a headcannon that Wanda is really into BDSM. Her powers make it really easy.

It also helps that scene in Civil War where she submit him to the ground. I can totally see that as usual foreplay between them.tongue

Edited by eligram on Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:07:27 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#95460: Jan 23rd 2019 at 6:49:51 AM

"I have a headcannon"

You have a large, smoothbore, gunpowder weapon in your head? Must be painful.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:49:59 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#95462: Jan 23rd 2019 at 7:08:44 AM

You know what I want?

A cap, bucky and Marvel sit ina tablet taking about all this weird shit they have in this age they dont really get.

I mean we have almost three fish out of the temporal water, YOU HAVE to used that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#95463: Jan 23rd 2019 at 7:12:41 AM

> I have a headcannon that Wanda is really into BDSM.

They've never really explored what she uses her powers for outside of combat for stuff other then missing with people's minds,so maybe

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#95464: Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:34:59 AM

EW celebrates BP’s best picture nomination with this cover[1]

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#95465: Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:37:24 AM

I'm really happy for Marvel and for everyone involved in Black Panther that it is getting these nominations. The politics can go screw themselves.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#95467: Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:40:36 AM

I'd still maintain that Logan deserved a nomination over several other films that did get nominated that year.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#95468: Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:45:24 AM

They never nominated WALL-E was for best movie so you know the awards are shit for that alone.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#95469: Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:52:53 AM

I have to ask: if there any villian that can match Tchalla like killmonger did?. because Im annoyed he die, if loki was allow to lived and the degree of simpathy, I feel Eric deserved as well.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#95470: Jan 23rd 2019 at 9:59:38 AM

Yeah, Black Panther (2018) kind of used up all of T'challa's most well-known enemies within the first film. Killmonger and Klaw are dead, and M'baku is no longer a villain. There's definitely villains from his Rogues Gallery you can use, but those three were his most well-known.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#95471: Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:00:59 AM

See, I'd never even heard of Black Panther before the film, so they could bring out anyone as a villain and I wouldn't know the difference.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95472: Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:15:03 AM

They could always adapt the war between Atlantis and Wakanda.

It wasn't exactly the peak of Comic Book story-telling, but hey, Civil War wasn't, either.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#95473: Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:23:24 AM

That would require Marvel Atlantis and Namor to be introduced first.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#95475: Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:27:39 AM

CBR, I believe, stated that the next Black Panther movie should have Doctor Doom as the villain. Basically, they would adapt Doomwar, which might be interesting.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 23rd 2019 at 10:28:20 AM


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