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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#95401: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:51:01 AM

[up] We had this discussion before, and I think I already explained why I think that Black Panther is the weaker movie (hell, in a "best MCU movie" list it wouldn't even break my top five...maybe top 10 and I am not sure about that one either). And I don't belittle it, I am realistic about its chances. Not movie has ever won best picture without also winning in the director/actor/screenplay categories. A movie which isn't even nominated for any of those categories has zero chance.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#95402: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:56:17 AM

At the very least, I hope Black Panther wins two Oscars. That way, we can say it has more than the Academy Award-winning film Suicide Squad

Edited by chasemaddigan on Jan 22nd 2019 at 9:56:31 AM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#95403: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:04:23 AM

If any Marvel movie would get nominated for that, it would be Black Panther.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95404: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:09:07 AM

[up][up]Or, crazy idea, we could stop this stupid rivalry that helps no one.

[up][up][up][up]Ehhhhh, the Oscars were never a "Which movie is best" competition, useless as something like that would be, but a giant marketing campaign. Hell, as our page for Gary Oldman says, you need to go out of your way to earn any awards.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 22nd 2019 at 12:09:31 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#95405: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:15:55 AM

Well, one thing for sure, the MCU doesn't need any marketing help, it does fine on its own.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#95406: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:44:25 AM

Hence why they never bothered.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#95407: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:59:33 AM

Depends on the film,Antman and the Wasp could have benefited from better marketing

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#95409: Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:04:36 AM

I wonder if Ant-Man lagging behind the rest of the MCU is due to lackluster marketing or the inherent weirdness of the concept for fans. The films themselves are completely serviceable.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:04:48 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#95410: Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:11:45 AM

I think it is mostly because those movies are geared towards a slightly different audience. They are smaller and more family friendly. And they never got the "big event and you can't miss this" feel. But the sequel made more than the first movie, so Marvel should be satisfied with the result.

Edited by Swanpride on Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:13:46 AM

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#95411: Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:53:27 AM

I’m actually pretty annoyed Ryan Coogler got snubbed for a Best Director nomination. And zero acting nominations? Not even for Michael B. Jordan or Danai Gurira? Rude.

#OscarsSoWhite.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#95412: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:08:31 AM

God, they are this year. I mean, for each of the "best actor"/"best supporting actor" categories, I think I see one nominated actor that isn't white. At least Best Director has two (Spike Lee and Alfonso Cuaron).

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#95413: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:12:28 AM

Not a single woman for best director, again. And I’d argue Ryan Coogler and Barry Jenkins deserved director nods.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#95414: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:15:44 AM

It's weird, because If Beale Street Could Talk seems like an Academy favorite, too, but no Best Director nod.

I also would have loved to see Bad Times at the El Royale nominated for anything, because it was awesome, but nobody saw it. Hell, Cynthia Erivo was amazing in it. I'm also surprised Widows and Steve McQueen didn't get any nominations, but I guess that's because the Academy really favors dramas over thrillers. And nothing for Blindspotting or Eighth Grade? Tragic.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:17:59 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#95415: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:31:18 AM

Curious, because Widows is actually more of a drama than a thriller.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#95416: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:52:15 PM

I notice in other places no one ever comments on any other film nominated for awards that "Infinity War should've been nominated!" Just when Black Panther gets any recognition.

It's a bit jarring that The Hate U Give pretty much hasn't been nominated for anything, despite universal critical acclaim.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#95417: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:09:15 PM

[up] That's because I haven't seen most of the other movies on the list and the ones I have seen, I consider good nominees. Black Panther is the one I have seen and where I know that there are better movies I would have liked in its place.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#95418: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:17:29 PM

Which ones did you see and approve of? Everyone seems to have hated Vice, and Green Book is a disgrace.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#95419: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:22:36 PM

Huh ya think the former would be good.

What's wrong with the latter?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#95420: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:29:21 PM

[up]By Jourdain Searles regarding Green Book.

The assumption that racism can end through friendship allows white people to be credited both with the beginning and end of the oppression of black people in the U.S. That, more than anything, seems to be the purpose of Green Book. It comes from the Forrest Gump and Driving Miss Daisy School of Simplistic History and Sentimentality with a curriculum that boasts discussion of important, relevant issues in a syrupy, candy coating with all the comforts of being set firmly in the past.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:29:39 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#95421: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:32:57 PM

Awwwww that's a shame.

My dad was really excited about it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#95422: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:33:42 PM

What was Vice about, and what were the problems with it? I don't remember hearing about that movie?

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#95424: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:46:06 PM

The main criticism against Vice was that the irreverent style of its predecessor The Big Short didn't really suit this film. Some thought its performances were great, others thought they felt like caricatures.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#95425: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:46:26 PM

Oh, right. That.

I don't get why things exist sometimes.

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