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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#94976: Jan 16th 2019 at 9:44:26 AM

The cat's name is Goose.

I am so happy.

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Emissary of the Void
#94978: Jan 16th 2019 at 9:55:16 AM

I honestly hope that they do a rendition of the Danger Zone, even if it’s a reference.

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Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#94979: Jan 16th 2019 at 10:12:59 AM

And have a beach volleyball for no real reason just, because.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#94980: Jan 16th 2019 at 10:57:21 AM

@ Tobias Well some people might also think that Tim Burton's Batman invented the Superhero movies for DC with actual thought and budget behind it and Batman Begins only revived it, after it was murdered by the Schumacher films.

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#94981: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:11:05 AM

Nah, even those were just B-movies.

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#94982: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:13:49 AM

Tim Burton's Batman movies, B-movies? That's just silly.

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#94983: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:16:56 AM

yeah they're more like C movies,yeah you heard me,batman is a C Lister!

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#94984: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:16:57 AM

Yeah that`s a little ridiculous. I mean you might call them over-the-top, but there went a lot of thought and effort into them. The yare definitely not comparable to trainwrecks like Catwoman.

And as for Marvel: I think X-Men (2000) was another good contender before Spider-Man (2002) to have rehabilitated the genre?

Edited by Forenperser on Jan 16th 2019 at 8:17:27 PM

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#94985: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:33:10 AM

Yeah the complexity of the chararter in batman return is pretty damn good, also one can said many superhero movies are over expensive B movies anyway.

Now, I call "phase 0" to the first spiderman movie because it prove special efect were capable of replicating super hero feats(which was the main hindrance of plenty of superhero movies) once that happen everything just kinda follow.

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#94986: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:39:46 AM

Whenever I think of old Batman movies, I'm just reminded of the fact that excluding the Adam West-era, Batman kills someone in every one of his movies.

I think "Justice League" might be the first live-action film since West to feature the character in which Bats doesn't kill at least one person. Though I might be misremembering.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 16th 2019 at 12:41:41 PM

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#94987: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:41:05 AM

Who does he kill in Batman & Robin? Besides the careers of everyone involved I mean.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#94988: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:45:42 AM

Didn't he kill some Parademons?

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#94989: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:46:51 AM

Parademons don't count as people. They've been trying to form a civil rights movement but it keeps getting murdered by Darkseid.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:56:30 PM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#94990: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:50:12 AM

Who does he kill in Batman & Robin?

No one. Ironic given how much that movie is hated.

[up]I know you're joking but Parademons not being people is actually a recent development. They've been depicted as sentient before.

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Disasturbator
#94991: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:50:30 AM

The man (Darksied) is keeping them down!

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#94992: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:51:26 AM

Darkseid is the villain from Undercover Brother?

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Disasturbator
#94993: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:52:57 AM

Yes

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#94994: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:53:37 AM

Huh, sure enough. I thought he killed Bane but that was actually Robin and Batgirl.

Okay. I guess "Batman and Robin" wins most faithful to the source material on this point.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 16th 2019 at 12:54:05 PM

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#94995: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:53:45 AM

" it keeps getting murdered. "

They have right: the right to workship darksaid and to fight and die for him, that it, what else someone can ask in life?.

And I think he kick posion ivy and kill her?

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Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#94996: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:53:53 AM

My biggest problem with the Burton films, well aside from Batman killing so many people that it'd make The Punisher blush, is how utterly uninterested Burton clearly was in exploring Batman as a character. I mean Joker got more screentime in Batman 89 than Batman did, and Batman was like a glorified guest star in Batman Returns.

It's why I prefer Batman Forever actually. Does it have A LOT of flaws, sure. But it at least TRIES to explore Batman's character and psychology, even if the results are mixed.

Also Burton's films, Returns especially, are just as "campy" as that movie was, they're just more grotesque about it.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#94997: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:55:32 AM

Huh, sure enough. I thought he killed Bane but that was actually Robin and Batgirl.

They didn't kill him either. All they did was cut off his supply of super serum.

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#94998: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:56:16 AM

Returns has a scene where a malformed Danny DeVito is given a Viking Funeral by sentient penguins in an ice cave.

Its claims to being a serious and complex film are overstated.

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#94999: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:56:29 AM

[up][up][up]he does explore batman but not as whole, but rather bruce wayne, the first explore is tragedy and the second the face he have to hide, as second movie have "people hinding behind a mask" as theme.

And while camping, the movie is also VERY dark, it got one of the darkest interpretation of catwoman and pinguin(to the point they look more like harley queen and Killer croc respectly).

Edited by unknowing on Jan 16th 2019 at 3:57:01 PM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#95000: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:58:25 AM

Serious and dark are not necessarily the same thing.

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