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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
What I'm expecting is for everyone to confront Thanos with a bunch of evidence that it didn't work and he refuses to accept any of it.
This song needs more love.The quiet scene - short, but still heartfelt - where Thor and the Guardians silently and not-so-silently bonb over all the horrible things Thanos has done to them and others is still my favorite scene in the film.
I'm expecting the universe to have simply gone to shit in the five year break, and Thanos to have to accept (or more likely, go insane with denial) that his madness has far from saved the galaxy, and may well have doomed it.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 10th 2019 at 3:54:36 AM
You mean while Idiot Quill acts like an idiot in front of Thor?
Meh, not really. I mean, maybe for most of them, but not Quill.
And I'm not just saying this due to my (most likely eternal) grudge against him. Him and Thor butt heads more than anything....and Thor pretty much wins.
One Strip! One Strip!IIRC, the moment I'm talking about isn't interrupted by Quill. You're thinking very specifically of the part where Thor and Gamora trade backstories.
Come to think of it, there's a lot of good moments in the first half establishing how horrible Thanos is and how damaged the characters who encountered him are for the experience of having done so.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 10th 2019 at 3:56:11 AM
With Thanos and his plan, I do think it's often forgotten that he is the villain of the movie. His plan is kinda meant to be dumb or at least pointlessly cruel-that's what makes him the villain of the movie. I do think, though, they might have overshot a little or at least not spelled out clearly enough why his plan sucks.
With the sympathy they give him, I think the point of it is less that his plan is good, but more to make the point that Thanos really does see himself as the good guy here and truly believes he's just trying to do what's right. This makes him a stark contrast to say, Red Skull, who is a Card-Carrying Villain.
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Indeed its pretty incredible.
Thanos himself is also an amazing achievement as to how far we've come in that regard.
Makes me the wish the Star Wars ST has good alien characters too.
Real dictators lack his style & nutsack chin though.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2019 at 4:12:22 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I do think Thanos is going to realize his whole plan didn't solve shit, but his reaction will be the flipside opposite of "let's try and fix this" and more of a Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum as his mind slowly shatters when faced with the realization it was All for Nothing.
Edited by Gaon on Jan 10th 2019 at 4:12:08 AM
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I remember Killmonger got the same treatment for a while. He's very much in the wrong and needs to be stopped, but it sympathetic and pitiable (especially if you know the kind of people he's based on), and so a surprisingly large number of fans jumped to the conclusion that the movie was actually on his side and was justifying all the things he did.
The result is an odd reading of the film, and both it, IW, and other examples make me think overall that modern general audiences aren't really used to moral ambiguity, especially the idea that villain can be wrong or awful people and still be sympathetic (Infinity War also hits upon the problem that audiences are not used to character who are clearly wrong succeeding) especially in the superhero genre: it often makes fanbases implode in approaching how to deal with it.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 10th 2019 at 4:20:33 AM
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Turns out there's actually quite a bit fanarts of the Avengers of dabooru, who knew?
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Not really surprising, considering we live in a world that considers inflexibility and "Us vs Them" thinking normal, if not virtuous.
Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 10th 2019 at 9:23:12 AM
So, I saw someone briefly bring potential threats for Phase 4 and onwards. One villain I think would be cool if they brought in would be Kang the Conqueror. I really liked how he was portrayed in The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, wherein he was a tyrant who honestly wanted to save the world from being destroyed by the Avengers' actions. He was cruel, but smart, and legitimately loved Princess Ravonna and wanted to save her from being erased from the timeline. I feel he could make a compelling villain if brought over to the MCU.
Of course, I've also seen people on this thread have... less than favorable responses to possibility of time travel in the series. So, I may be alone on this front.
Villains like Thanos or Killmonger are the best type of villains, imO.
They are neither Card-Carrying Villain's like Red Skull, nor Well-Intentioned Extremist's like Ra's Al Ghul.
This thin line they are walking between bastard and pityable is just so utterly fascinating.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianI have a very specific idea of what I want for the post credits stinger of Endgame.
Thanos, and/or whoever is the secondary villain of Endgame, is defeated. The stones are scattered again, maybe even destroyed. The world is saved.
Then, a piece of wreckage is seen falling to Earth. Something significant, that the heroes overlooked. It sits in a crater for a while, unnoticed for its dangerous nature. Then we zoom in, as the object is finally picked up by a gauntleted hand.
The owner of the hand slowly lifts the wreckage to his face to reveal... the mask of Doctor Doom.
It's not going to happen, but it's definitely the move that would result in the most hype.
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Try to temper yourself because unchecked raging hatred make convos a bit more difficult.
They'll prolly make Kang an observer who appears in multiple movies and slowly builds up importance.
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Man that be totally bitchin if it happened.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2019 at 4:32:23 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I've said it before, but I wouldnt be surprised if the next films are "breather" films featuring threatening, but small-scale villains like Gray Gargoyle or Arcade or the like. They've already announced Mysterio will be the villain for the next Spider-Man film, so it looks like they'll be going in that direction (of course, Spidey has rarely taken on world-threatening villains outside of team-ups and crossovers anyway, but still,,).
Personally I feel that saying “but it’ll be rebutted in Endgame” is missing the problem of framing that is my issue.
We know thanks to the rapidly accessible info on the Internet that Thanos’s plan is stupid. Spending 5 hours to get that point of “actually it’s bad”, following all those hours of “but it’s worth a try first” is the problem. By stretching such a foolish gimmick out way too long, it elevates Thanos as worth taking seriously throughout.
It’s the same issue as bowing to demands to debate Flat Earthers publicly. One would expect that putting them onstage would result in quickly making them look foolish. But most of the time the audience actually won’t distinguish between good and bad points, and simply mentally frame the debate as “this guy talks a lot and sounds like he really believes it, so he must be just as smart as the other guy.”
It’s also the same principle behind exploitation films. Audiences tend to care more about the hours in between than they do about the obligatory “actually this is bad” end.

Plus barring Gamora there was never really a right time to call him out.
The ones on Titan were busy trying to survive and prevent him from getting the Stone. That has higher precedence than calling him a crazy person.
And the ones on Earth literally just meet the guy for 2 minutes as he kicks their asses one by one.
Not a lot of good times there.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2019 at 3:48:58 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."