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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#93976: Jan 9th 2019 at 9:12:05 AM

Social Justice Captain Planet.

Which is just regular Captain Planet.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#93977: Jan 9th 2019 at 9:35:38 AM

Social Justice Necromancer, bringing back from the dead the social justice issues society forgot.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#93978: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:10:08 AM

Social Justice Ninja, who fights social issues by stabbing the responsible parties from the shadows.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#93979: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:12:49 AM

Man are we off topic

-casts the spell of thread realignment-

After End Game,what's the next thing they'll introduce ?I expect they may stay away from the multiple Earth's thing of comics but it's really interesting concept and it does mean they could other heros who are difficult to place in the cinematic universe like the Xmen

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#93980: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:14:30 AM

Social Justice Artificer, Blue Mage, Pokemon Trainer, and Heavy Weapons Guy.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#93981: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:17:01 AM

Marvel doesn’t really do alternate Earths that much, at least not in the way DC does. Alternate timelines and futures, yeah, but Spider Verse is the most prominent and whole hog the franchise has gone with “here’s a story exploring other realities,” and that already has a movie series.

Dr. Strange’s enemies are extradimensional, and I’d really love Shuma Gorath to be the Big Bad of an Avengers movie at some point, but it’s not treated quite the same way.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#93982: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:20:29 AM

If they did use Shuma-Gorath, I hope they get the scale of his threat right. He's supposed to be a threat far greater than Dormammu or Thanos even with the Infinity Gauntlet.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#93983: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:21:17 AM

[up]Isn't Shuma-Gorath a villain from Conan?

[up][up][up][up]Aww, Party Pooper!

No, wait! Social Justice Party Pooper!

Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 9th 2019 at 3:22:00 PM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#93984: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:24:32 AM

Not as mainline stories, true, Marvel's Elseworlds tend to stay else. But there's Vampire Storm, Exiles, Marvel Zombies, the whole Ultimate Universe, Battleworld... It's not endless Crises in infinite books, but the multiverse is out there.

Edited by Unsung on Jan 9th 2019 at 11:29:21 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#93985: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:24:34 AM

Your thnking of Shub-Niggurath

[up][up]

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 9th 2019 at 6:24:52 PM

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#93986: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:29:27 AM

[up][up][up]Other way around, I believe. He started out in Doctor Strange, then showed up in a few of Marvel's Conan comics. Conan, meanwhile, I think previously crossed over with Lovecraft and had Shub-Niggurath. Who isn't actually all that similar, despite the names.

Edited by Unsung on Jan 9th 2019 at 11:33:42 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#93987: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:31:47 AM

In Conan, Shuma-Gorath was such a dire threat to the world that its arrival is one of the few situations where Crom, a grim and loveless god who normally doesn't help mortals since he considers the power to strive and slay he breathes into the souls of men to be enough, will directly intervene to give Shuma-Gorath an asskicking.

Edited by M84 on Jan 10th 2019 at 2:37:11 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#93988: Jan 9th 2019 at 10:44:44 AM

I still think that Marvel should solve the X-men problem by sticking them i their own reality. Depending on how successful their streaming service is maybe they can even start with the series this time around and later spin it off into a movie.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#93989: Jan 9th 2019 at 11:00:34 AM

They should do a bit where they show one of the few occasions the Guantlet has been assembled in the past, and it’s someone - maybe a Celestial or a previous Ancient One - trying to use it against Shuma.

They unleash its full power and... it only slows Shuma down.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#93990: Jan 9th 2019 at 11:04:20 AM

Except the Gauntlet in the MCU was only recently made, it seems. It didn't exist in those times.

Apparently past wielders of the Infinity Stones only ever used them separately.

Edited by M84 on Jan 10th 2019 at 3:05:26 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#93991: Jan 9th 2019 at 11:24:24 AM

[up] Well, the concept of the Infinity Gauntlet has to at least been around for a while. Why else would Odin have a replica of an artifact that didn't even exist yet?

Besides being a blatant Retcon, of course.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#93992: Jan 9th 2019 at 11:25:38 AM

wild mass guessOdin was interested in making a gauntlet of his own back he was building his empire

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#93994: Jan 9th 2019 at 11:59:29 AM

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Shuma Gorath needs to use his MVC b-boy stance.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#93995: Jan 9th 2019 at 12:04:26 PM

He absolutely does.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#93996: Jan 9th 2019 at 12:08:34 PM

I thought they had Discount X-Men set up after Avengers 3. But then the show bombed and AOS moved on so... who knows what they're doing with them.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#93997: Jan 9th 2019 at 12:22:19 PM

wild mass guessthe xmen will end up in a pocket dimension that Strange visits

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#93998: Jan 9th 2019 at 12:43:04 PM

AOS didn't "move on," they still have two Inhumans in the show. The storyline just came to an end.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 9th 2019 at 12:43:21 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#93999: Jan 9th 2019 at 1:12:47 PM

I keep thinking of catching up with AOS, but the thought of sitting through the garbage fire that is the latter half of Season 3 keeps holding me back.

Yes, I know I can just skip it, but that's against my religious principles.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#94000: Jan 9th 2019 at 1:27:59 PM

Why is the latter half of Season 3 a "garbage fire"? I enjoyed a lot of it, even if I ended up disliking the Hive storyline until the very end.

But if you want, Season 4 has some of the best television I have ever seen.


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