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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#93851: Jan 6th 2019 at 10:25:26 AM

Then of course she does the incredibly dangerous thing of shooting a gun at him in a room full of other people as well.

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Aaaaand, being an independent, self-made woman in the middle of the 40s means Peggy got burned by a lot of men before; I don't believe it is unreasonable to assume, after becoming Mr. Muscles, he let the fame get to his head. (And he was in a fairly compromising position).

Sure, I agree it could be brought up later, but that I blame the format of the movie, the montage starts literally in the very next scene.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#93852: Jan 6th 2019 at 10:35:37 AM

No I don't buy it. Her character is very consistent throughout the film, EXCEPT for this one scene that's plopped in out of nowhere.

Also nowhere in the film is it stated that she's had such "experiences" with dudes getting buff, so that's pure headcanon.

I dislike when writers do that, writing a character woefully out of character just for the sake of making a cheap joke/gag (especially when the film has more than enough humor as it is).

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#93853: Jan 6th 2019 at 10:36:51 AM

Nah, why Peggy is so angry is made clear. After all she saw him kissing a woman, and she is very clear about assuming that by loosing his scrawny look, he also lost his humility...remember, Peggy didn't fall in love with hulking Steve, she liked the underdog. The moment showed her that he wasn't an underdog anymore. And she specifically said that she could relate to him because she also had experience in being denied opportunities.

Edited by Swanpride on Jan 6th 2019 at 10:50:41 AM

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#93854: Jan 6th 2019 at 6:05:21 PM

You know, for some reason, do you realize, the music from transformer the last knight does kinda work well with endgame.

Edited by unknowing on Jan 6th 2019 at 10:16:22 AM

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#93855: Jan 6th 2019 at 6:05:55 PM

Any chance Black Pather can nab a Golden Globe?

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#93856: Jan 6th 2019 at 8:37:57 PM

Peggy shooting at Steve is one of those scenes that exists to be funny in a vacuum so they can put it in the trailer, and then come up with an excuse for it to happen in the film after the fact.

Specifically, Peggy shooting the shield is the big laugh to close out the trailer. It's her Establishing Character Moment in advertising, telling audiences to come check out this movie with this gruff badass woman who doesn't hesitate to stress-test the shield because she's tough and gritty.

But it's also kind of psychotic so in the film proper they came up with a paper-thin excuse to justify briefly derailing her and making this scene happen.

Marvel puts a lot of things in the trailers that wind up very different contextually or loaded with in-the-moment excuses to justify this ridiculous moment the trailer forced them to include. The marketing team has a very weird relationship with the filmmaking team.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 6th 2019 at 9:40:04 AM

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#93858: Jan 6th 2019 at 11:44:34 PM

[up][up]See also the trailer to Guardians of the Galaxy 1 which features a scene of Quill ogling a naked Gamora or one of the trailers for the Avengers which has Black Widow striking a very awkward sexy pose as an explosion occurs behind her.

Edited by windleopard on Jan 7th 2019 at 12:56:42 PM

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#93859: Jan 7th 2019 at 12:41:47 AM

Neither of which are in the actual films if I remember correctly? They were ONLY for the trailer. In fact, in GOTG, it turns out that Quill is actually staring at Rocket's scars/mutilated body (which hints at the latter's tragic backstory). So, completely different than what the trailer implies basically.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#93860: Jan 7th 2019 at 12:42:53 AM

We've got Never Trust a Trailer for a reason, after all.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#93861: Jan 7th 2019 at 3:11:04 AM

Especially not a trailer from Marvel. They lie. All the time.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#93862: Jan 7th 2019 at 4:35:14 AM

Speaking of trailers and the like, Avengers: Endgame's marketing will only show off snippets from the first 15-20 minutes.

At this rate, I almost wouldn't be surprised if they did that ploy that was going on when Psycho came out in that no one was allowed inside the theater once the movie started showing.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 7th 2019 at 7:35:38 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#93863: Jan 7th 2019 at 6:12:40 AM

I would be all for it! One thing for sure, the first showing nearby is mine!

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#93864: Jan 7th 2019 at 6:23:22 AM

The less I know about Endgame's story going in, the happier I will be. Great on Marvel for this choice. They don't need to sell audiences on the action.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#93865: Jan 7th 2019 at 7:20:45 AM

They don't need to do fucking anything at this point. If they just released a date, the theaters would fill up like they were giving out free Audis regardless.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#93866: Jan 7th 2019 at 7:31:24 AM

[up] They already gave a date (April 26, 2019), but I see your point.

Heck, I might as well consider myself as someone who's seeing that movie on day 1 (or at least on opening weekend). I just REALLY want to see Thanos get his ass kicked already! That's how invested I'm in at this point!

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#93867: Jan 7th 2019 at 7:54:40 AM

I assumed the trailer was deliberately not showing much beyond the first act. If everything's only from the first 20 minutes and the running time will be around three hours long as the rumors suggest, that means the trailer is only showing scenes from the first 11% of the movie.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#93868: Jan 7th 2019 at 8:12:11 AM

I will mostly by there on day one because I don't want anyone to spoil it for me.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#93869: Jan 7th 2019 at 2:20:31 PM

I've caught wind of a rumor that Hugh Jackman is appearing in Avengers: Endgame apparently as You-Know-Who.

...Yeah, I'm not buying it. Though I wonder if Mr. Jackman actually does appear in Endgame (very unlikely), it'll be as someone new, like how Peter "Bolivar Trask" Dinklage appeared in Infinity War as Eitri.

Maybe as someone from Alfheim, (assuming the theory that Thor will visit there turns out to be true)?

Nah...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#93870: Jan 7th 2019 at 2:27:35 PM

Jackman has more or less owned the role of Wolverine since 2000, but I'm pretty sure he said he's done after Logan.

I mean, despite my feelings on Logan, I'd love to see his incarnation of the character make it in, but I think that's pretty unlikely, unless he did Marvel a solid and appear one last time as an alt version of himself.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#93871: Jan 7th 2019 at 2:27:35 PM

heard he appears as a P. T. Barnum type character and has Rocket performing tricks

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 7th 2019 at 10:27:49 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#93873: Jan 7th 2019 at 2:51:40 PM

I can do without...the only advantage would be that it would mean that they close the door to having him as Wolverine once and for all.

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#93874: Jan 7th 2019 at 4:14:45 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if Hugh Jackman did turn up in the MCU at some point, but as a totally different character.

That said; question: Has anyone tried to call the phone number that's displayed on Tony's cell in Infinity War?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#93875: Jan 7th 2019 at 4:17:22 PM

> Has anyone tried to call the phone number that's displayed on Tony's cell in Infinity War?

Some likely already has,probably leads to a random answer machine

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