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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
So it's funny but someone I knew asked the exact same question about how Thanos was able to tank Mantis' brain buggering easier than Ego did (even though Ego is a damned Celestial in this universe).
I tried to rationalize it as her having more direct access (since she literally grabbed one of his brainstems or whatever that was) when she did it, and perhaps because she was more used to being in his head, even if he'd let her all those times before.
Thanos was something new, and he just had an incredible will on top of that. That's just my guess though. I could be completely full of shit.
Also, is the MCU Captain America Trilogy the only MCU trilogy that doesn't shit the pot at some point?
If not for the original Star Wars Trilogy, I'd say The First Avenger, The Winter Soldier and Civil War are the only good trilogy period.
And I fully admit that that's totally debatable (both the quality of the three Cap movies and the quality of the OG Star Wars Trilogy as well).
Edited by HandsomeRob on Jan 4th 2019 at 4:34:55 AM
One Strip! One Strip!Ego strikes me as never encountering a major threat till he met the Guardians considering he just infiltrated most planets under the guise of a harmless visitor.
While Thanos has been fighting wars & God knows what for thousands of years.
They both worked towards a goal but Ego most likely never struggled as much as Thanos did.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I heard a rumor (it came of IMDB's trivia page, so it must have some basis in fact) that Thor: The Dark World had originally had an entirely different third act. The Aether would've consumed Jane and turned her into a Phoenix-esque figure. She would've supplanted Malekith as the main threat and Thor would have to bring her down safely in order to save the Nine Realms.
For how many people found Thor: The Dark World boring, that definitely would've made a more interesting climax if IMDB is being accurate here.
It would have at least given the character Jane something interesting to do besides just stand around fawning over Thor.
On a semi-unrelating topic, anyone besides me feel like there's been way more advertising for Endgame and barely any for Captain Marvel?
Sure, I get Endgame is the more anticipated film, but given Marvel will be the first in the MCU with a female lead, I find the lack of attention the studio had put into it marketing-wise problematic.
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Edited by alliterator on Jan 4th 2019 at 6:14:47 AM
A LOT about why Thanos is so inexplicably tougher than anything else the heroes try would've been solved, IMO, if the film had established that the Infinity Gauntlet provides passive benefits to Thanos like keeping his local space-time immune to Portal Cuts or the Power Stone strengthening his mental resistance to Mantis's attempt.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 4th 2019 at 6:28:52 AM
Okay, it bears repeating, but when has Ego demonstrated that he has strong willpower? Why is it hard to accept that a guy who is so obsessed with his goal his spent decades building armies and fighting wars is mentally stronger than an egotistical douche who killed someone because he fell in love with someone and it would tempt him from his plans?
In terms of raw output Ego would have that of a literal planet. Earth is capable of producing 2.5 petawatts
worth of power
if every resource on it were funneled into a single use, so it seems reasonable he should be stronger than a guy who's basically the Hulk but better trained.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 4th 2019 at 6:59:55 AM
Well, Ego's planet is described as very small relative to Earth, but we really don't get any practical sense of his capabilities. Seeding himself on other planets and then taking them over would require incalculable power, way more than a single planet-sized body could produce, but the other feats we see him accomplish are parlor tricks for something with his supposed capabilities.
There really is no way to judge. I have to assume that Mantis is able to control Ego better because of her deep familiarity with him.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I mean his raw power as a planet in no way should really be compared to the power of his consciousness. Apples and grapes.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."The Reality Stone, as depicted in The Dark World, was basically a God-Tier Symbiote.
You're right, I messed up. I meant the Power Gem.
Nobody ever actually touched the Mind Gem, which may have something to do with it.
Though if we count the Scepter's shenanigans, the Mind Gem has been shown to hurt people maliciously just by being near them.
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x4 He's physically stronger, but that doesn't correlate to being mentally stronger. A bodybuilder isn't going to be better at withstanding torture than soldiers who are trained to resist interrogation, not to mention Ego never has to do anything to gain his powers and can get anything he wants with relative ease. He would have the mental fortitude of a narcissistic manchild.
Edited by Ikedatakeshi on Jan 4th 2019 at 11:11:21 PM
As I said Thanos got to where he is through warefare & bloodshed after surviving a traumatic event.
Ego through infiltration & by infiltration just visiting planetside & banging the locals after spending however long alone & bored.
Different experiences create different mentalities.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Re-posting this since it kinda got lost in the continued Thanos has willpower convo:
Is the MCU Captain America Trilogy the only MCU trilogy that doesn't shit the pot at some point?
If not for the original Star Wars Trilogy, I'd say The First Avenger, The Winter Soldier and Civil War are the only good trilogy period.
And I fully admit that that's totally debatable (both the quality of the three Cap movies and the quality of the OG Star Wars Trilogy as well).
One Strip! One Strip!One reason why I'd rank Cap's trilogy as the best is that I deem TFA better than IM 2/3 and Thor 1/2. Even its lowest point is still pretty solid. Dare I say I find it better than Avengers (though worse than IM 1)? In fact I feel like it's in the upper half of the first two phases put together. Then you have Winter Soldier which is obviously awesome and Civil War, which I don't exactly love but I can still have a good time watching. This Captain America movie is a better Avengers movie than the actual Avengers movie released the previous year.
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)Personally I would rank the Captain America Trilogy as the best (I actually worked on an article about this once, but I never finished it...maybe I should go back to it), but there are a few Trilogies which other people might argue for: Back to the Future, Lord of the Rings, The original Star Trek, The Godfather (based on how much you are ready to give the third movie a pass)…
I tend to prefer the Captain America Trilogy over all of them and Agents of Shield over pretty much all Tv shows because they are doing something really rare: challenging the characters and pushing them forward instead of constantly resetting to the status quo.(And yes, I am aware that Steve himself doesn't change all that much, that is part of his character, but how his character relates to the world around him changes...and Black Widow easily gets the best arcs in the Cap movies).
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The only stone that didn't appear to hurt people (well, physically hurt them) was the Mind Stone, which makes sense. Of course, it could also fire bolts of energy, so...maybe not.