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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Honestly, when it comes to Wakanda specifically, it might be punching up. Peter is a poor kid from New York who is pretty smart. Shuri is the princess of the most technologically advanced and powerful country on earth, and she's also one of, if not the most, intelligent people on the planet.
That said, I also totally want Peter, Shuri, and teen Groot hanging out. Maybe they can play video games and Shuri can help Peter on his homework.
If Tony is going to be out permanently after Endgame, someone will have to take over as the technological center of the Avengers. Shuri and Wakanda are perfectly positioned for that.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'm pretty sure that Spidey and Shuri would get along really well. Shuri is cute, really smart, witty, funny, and around Peter's age. Also she even seems to have an appreciation for American culture as well. And Peter is a likeable witty guy to. So I could see them bonding. Not necessarily romantically, but as buddies.
I could also see Rocket maybe liking them as (although perhaps being reluctant to openly admit it at first).
Even when the "big brother" is protecting a male? I would find Tony and T'Challa bickering about whether Peter and Shuri should be allowed to date utterly hilarious.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"He's kind of adopted him. I haven't watched Homecoming yet since they won't fucking release it for online rental, so I don't know the exact dynamic between Aunt May, Tony, and Peter.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"While everybody is talking about geniuses, remind me, was it ever established that MCU Thanos is a genius?
In the comics he is one, even more so than the likes of Reed Richards and Dr Doom.
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Please stop projecting your values into the films. It derails the conversation to no good purpose.
A comment a friend of mine made regarding the upcoming Captain Marvel film.
"I hope Stan Lee's cameo consists of him overhearing the name Captain Marvel, and saying 'Marvel? What a stupid name'."
Like creepy stories? Check out my book!He must have been intelligent enough to concoct his master plan and carry it through. This includes:
- Evading capture and execution as a heretic for his views.
- Recruiting, indoctrinating, and training acolytes to become his "children" and execute his will.
- Raising an army and leading it competently enough to conquer and decimate entire planets.
- Coming up with the plan to acquire and use the Infinity Stones.
This isn't the work of a moron. I don't know if he's supposed to be seen as a genius at the level of Stark, Banner, or Shuri — there is no indication in the films of this, at least. Stupid, though, he ain't.
If there's any one thing that bugs me about Infinity War, it's where Thanos got his army of disposable monster minions. His children I can see, and obviously he'd need an army of some sort, but there's no explanation of where it came from or why it's composed of generic monsters instead of, say, recruits from the planets he's captured or something. Sauron in Lord of the Rings has armies composed of a mixture of orcs and goblins of various subraces, plus a variety of humans from different lands that are loyal to him. Generic movie monsters are just boring.
Edited by Fighteer on Jan 2nd 2019 at 10:36:24 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"As it's been mentioned, Thanos had a lot of scientific knowledge in his original version, but there's a broad implication something similar holds for his MCU version.
Besides his lapses into borderline scientific jargon when explaining his evil plan ("this universe is finite, its resources finite"), when he explains his backstory to Strange, he talks about how he calculated the end of Titan's resources and how he proposed a solution to the leaders of Titan to save the planet from extinction. Going by his wording and description, he makes it sound like he was some kind of scientist back when he was in Titan, as his story gives off vibes of Kal-El studying Krypton and realizing its about to go boom. There's also his recurring tendency to implant his children with cybernetic parts.
If I had to guess, maybe Thanos bred The Outriders via genetic engineering.
Edited by Gaon on Jan 2nd 2019 at 7:57:43 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Yes, it's an established trope that villains have infinite offscreen resources, but it's a lazy one and Infinity War does so many other tropes well that it's a little jarring.
I also wonder what happens to his army once he snaps his fingers and retires. Does it disband? Do half of the remaining Outriders die along with everything else? Are there other ships out there cruising the galaxy for planets to conquer that will just drift on aimlessly now that it was done without them?
Having watched the movie several times now, I'm not completely clear about whether Wakanda is attacked by the giant mothership that we saw Thanos use or by just a single one of those ring-ships. If the latter, there are a ton more out there.
Edited by Fighteer on Jan 2nd 2019 at 11:13:39 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Thanos doesn't show any particular sign of being a scientific genius but he has shown himself to be an (at the very least) competent strategist and tactician and he seems a decent enough leader so he definitely has some smarts. But how Titan intelligence relates to human intelligence is unclear. Thanos might be smart by human levels but average by his race's (whereas comic Thanos is definitely smart for a titan.)
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."Is "Titan" a species? I suppose that makes sense since his homeworld is named Titan, but I got the impression, possibly from the historical and cultural implications of that name, that it denoted a (small) group of superbeings rather than just another kind of folk like Xandarians, Asgardians, humans, etc.
If everyone from his homeworld was as monstrously powerful as he is seen to be, then it seems unlikely that they'd all die out due to resource starvation, or that it would make an effective demonstration scenario for his philosophy.
Edited by Fighteer on Jan 2nd 2019 at 11:26:09 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"We also never really find out how Thanos was the lone survivor of Titan. Maybe that's related to his vast resources.
In the comics at least, Titanians are actually a weaker offshoot of Earth's Eternals, who were themselves a human subspecies. Most Titanians are thus Human Aliens — Thanos looks the way he does because he's a Mutant with a Deviant appearance. His combination of Eternal and Deviant heritage made him far more powerful than the average Titanian Eternal.
Who knows what the heck MCU Thanos is.
Edited by M84 on Jan 3rd 2019 at 12:28:15 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised

People might wanna clarify which Peter they're talking about. Right now we've got two of 'em headlining separate film series.