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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#93277: Dec 31st 2018 at 1:45:50 PM

Just saying. Reed Richards' brand of stretching is closer to Jake the Dog from Adventure Time than it is to Luffy from One Piece.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#93278: Dec 31st 2018 at 1:47:44 PM

I'm pretty sure that only applied to Ultimate Reed Richards when he became the Maker.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#93279: Dec 31st 2018 at 1:49:19 PM

Plastic Man can pretty much turn into whatever he thinks of.

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#93280: Dec 31st 2018 at 2:28:12 PM

I guess this is what they meant by "prepare yourselves for the Rubberband Man"?

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Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#93281: Dec 31st 2018 at 2:54:18 PM

[up] Oh, man. Infinity War was a warning this whole time!

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#93282: Dec 31st 2018 at 3:45:30 PM

'playing the "That meme isn't even funny" advocate'

Edited by Forenperser on Dec 31st 2018 at 1:01:08 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#93283: Dec 31st 2018 at 3:49:03 PM

Just remember that The incredibles is what a Fantastic four movie should look like

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#93284: Dec 31st 2018 at 3:52:27 PM

I don't think much of the plot and themes in The Incredibles works for the Four. The Incredibles are inspired by the Four, but that doesn't make their stories all that similar.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#93285: Dec 31st 2018 at 4:04:05 PM

At their core they're a dysfunctional superhero family that works together,least thats how i understand it

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Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#93286: Dec 31st 2018 at 4:04:37 PM

Eh... maybe. If in a Fantastic Four reboot film had them already with their powers, and the film was about them being restrained by a government agency (or SHIELD) for being too dangerous, only to have to let them fight when an actual villain enters the scene.... it could work.

Except that plot's been done, and pretty sure Incredibles fans would cry foul.

I'd be willing to forgive all that as long as they got Samuel L. Jackson in there as Nick Fury, and not some Expy.

Edited by Brandon on Dec 31st 2018 at 4:05:12 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#93287: Dec 31st 2018 at 4:09:43 PM

A good way to putting it is what they choose to emphasize. The Incredibles are a "family of supers," emphasis on family. The Fantastic Four are a "family of super explorers," emphasis on explorers.

While there's certainly stories that focus on it, in general the Fantastic Four's thing isn't specifically being a dysfunctional family that comes together in trying times, but in encountering and dealing with strange horizons. Even if they were to emphasize them as a broken family, in that case Lost in Space (2018) is probably the best example of what they should look like.

Plus, genre wise, Incredibles 1 is basically a throwback spy movie with superheroes instead of James Bond and a family subplot.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 31st 2018 at 4:10:49 AM

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#93288: Dec 31st 2018 at 4:28:31 PM

I read somewhere that Helen Parr must have had to pretend to be in pain while giving birth to her three children, and I can't stop thinking about it and I must share it with the world.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 31st 2018 at 5:30:43 AM

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#93289: Dec 31st 2018 at 5:36:49 PM

That's nothing compared to the discussions on the old IMDB boards about what Helen and Bob's bedroom antics must be like...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#93290: Dec 31st 2018 at 5:38:09 PM

There is a lot of porn of Helen.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#93291: Dec 31st 2018 at 5:38:17 PM

Which explains how she survived sex with Mister Incredible, Hooke Law and all that.

BTW, there's this romantic comedy where the situation is reversed and, when the couple tries to have sex, they put the bed through the door. Anyome knows what the name is?

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 31st 2018 at 10:46:48 AM

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#93292: Dec 31st 2018 at 5:39:32 PM

Oh dear my attempts to change the topic to something tasteful have failed

I must steer this thread back to the light

Somehow

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#93293: Dec 31st 2018 at 5:43:58 PM

Anyway,xmen in the MCU,won't happen unless there's a serious reboot to consolidate everything

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#93295: Dec 31st 2018 at 6:11:32 PM

I read somewhere that Helen Parr must have had to pretend to be in pain while giving birth to her three children

Or she just stayed home and cleaned up afterwards. tongue

(Link is SFW.)

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 31st 2018 at 6:11:50 AM

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#93296: Dec 31st 2018 at 6:16:04 PM

So I looked through list

Ones that interests me the most is Dazzler,a marvel musical you say? Capital idea!

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#93297: Dec 31st 2018 at 6:21:09 PM

I could see the X-Men working through simply introducing individual characters through other series and references.

For example, Mystique and Rogue show up in one of the Captain Marvel sequels. Shadowcat shows up in a Spider-Man movie should they want to adapt her similarly to the Ultimate line (or better yet, do Liz Allan as Firestar). I'm not a particularly big fan of T'Challa and Ororo together by any stretch of the imagination, but they could conceivably introduce her in a Black Panther film. Etc, etc, until it all coalesces into the world learning about the existence of mutants as a big overall plot point for one of the phases and - ultimately - an X-Men movie.

I would love a superhero-comedy musical, though the character on that list I'd most want pronto is Spider-Woman. They've already said they had rights to her for ages (specifically, they had rights to everything about Jessica Drew except the Spider-Woman name, which is imo superfluous anyway). I'm hoping she maybe shows up in the Black Widow movie.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 31st 2018 at 6:24:21 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#93298: Dec 31st 2018 at 7:42:07 PM

BTW, has anyone actually forgot about Mary Jane and Peter's marriage? I've stopped following comics a while ago, but I'm surprised it never seems to come up anymore.
Um, that's kind of what everyone is joking about: Peter sold their marriage to Mephisto, so now they were never married in the first place.

The Fantastic Four are a "family of super explorers," emphasis on explorers.
Actually, the FF have been called "Marvel's First Family," with a heavy emphasis on the family part. And like a family, they tend to bicker and argue between themselves a lot.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#93299: Dec 31st 2018 at 8:04:35 PM

Well, they are basically The incredibles, except that they go out to explore stuff instead of picking cats from trees.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#93300: Dec 31st 2018 at 8:07:25 PM

They are pretty high-concept in comparison.

Compared to Mr. Incredible who is blue-collar & dabbles in stuff like insurance, Mr. Fantastic literally rebuilt the universe alongside his wife & children.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 31st 2018 at 9:22:43 AM

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