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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
@Tobias: I guess people don't hold the killswitch against Tony Stark because everyone in Ultimates is tettering on the edge of sociopathy.
Hell, wasn't this the universe where Black Widow killed Hawkeye's family, Hank Pym nearly killed Janet because she ran away in the middled of a (implied common) beating, and Nick Fury wiped out an entire universe worth of people just to prove a point to Reed Richards?
Not to mention a Wolverine Freaky Friday flipped into Peter Parker's body trying to have sex with teenage Mary Jane, which is both ephebophilia and rape by deception.
So the killswitch is not out of character, is what I'm arguing, and the Ultimates was already so filled with questionable material nobody thought it was worth kicking up a fuss over anymore.
Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 31st 2018 at 4:37:56 PM
IIRC, he didn't install a kill switch. This version of Natasha had nanites in her system that got installed to control an IM armor Tony gave her. While monitoring the nanites, Tony discovered information revealing her as a traitor. So it was less him violating her body because of sociopathy and more just discovering her treachery rather early.
Better to sell your marriage to the devil and then wait for readers to just forget it ever existed.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I think it's a symptom of Armed with Canon that causes relationships to end so weirdly. A comic book romance rarely begins with the intention of ending, so there's almost never a smooth narrative from beginning to end.
It starts because a writer has a story to tell with it and thinks it will be a good relationship for his character.
It ends because a different writer thinks it's stupid and/or wants the character to hook up with someone else. "This plot point is bullshit and everyone should agree with me," is an attitude that rarely makes for good storytelling.
Indeed, one of the things that ultimately turned me off of comic book writing is the fact that it's too revisionist. Too many writers are trying to "fix" the characters, story, and setting rather than making new and interesting stories with them. There's too much emphasis on turning back the clock to when X Superhero was "better".
If the MCU was a comic book, Iron Man 4 would end with Tony sacrificing himself to blow up the villain, but surviving. However, the explosion put shrapnel in his heart, and now he needs to put the Arc Reactor back into his chest to survive. Because the writer insists that the character was cooler when that was part of his dynamic.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 31st 2018 at 1:08:22 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'm curious, what is the longest-running, uninterrupted comic book romance?
This song needs more love.I want to say Reed Richards and Sue Storm, which is pretty much the OTP of Marvel. Those two have somehow managed to be married for decades without anyone ever f*cking with it. They have kids now! Two of them! And they're still together!
Venture Bros. can make jokes about how Reed's a shitty husband but honestly, he must be doing something right if he's, like, the only superhero ever who can make a healthy marriage work for decades of publication.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 31st 2018 at 1:11:11 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Speaking of "Fantastic Four", since I'm sure Marvel will be doing their own reboot sometime down the line (what with Disney buying Fox), what actors you think would be good for the roles?
Personally I'm all for Michael Chiklas coming back as Ben Grimm.
Maybe Alice Eve could be Sue Storm.
Like creepy stories? Check out my book!Reed will clearly be played by Jesse Eisenberg.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'd like them to be an older team, honestly. Right from the start. Veteran astronauts before they get their powers, lost in time and/or space for decades on end as some people have suggested, however they want to do it, but yeah, give Reed his signature grey temples, let the Four connect to that retro future a little bit.
I'd really like it to be something along the lines of what a Lost In Space movie should look like: the Fantastic Four disappeared decades ago, but have actually been stuck in the Negative Zone or far past the known reaches of the Nine Realms or inside Galactus' armpit or something, and the plot is them exploring this new and strange place while trying to find their way back home.
They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
BTW, has anyone actually forgot about Mary Jane and Peter's marriage? I've stopped following comics a while ago, but I'm surprised it never seems to come up anymore.
And I must say, all this talk about the Richard's and not a single joke about Mr. Fantastic stretching powers.
I do not know whether to be proud or disappointed.
"Reed must be doing something ri-"
Penis. The answer is malleable, shapeshifting super penis.
My various fanfics.
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I actually could kinda see Jesse Eisenberg playing Dr. Doom after seeing him as Lex Luther.
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Rubber Man, a subtrope of shapeshifting which allows for a degree of sizeshifting, though typically within somewhat strict limitations based on mass and volume. *pedantry++*
I know I don't want another Fantastic Four origin story, but there's a lot of lore, and a particular old-school flavour of Science Hero adventure that I would like to see more of. Maybe the Four could be more of a universe-wide supporting cast for a while. I'd like that.
Can't Reed Richards split his fingers into multiple, smaller fingers? And also grow and stretch his body longer than a mile? Reed Richards can do whatever the fuck he wants to with his body, which makes him a veritable sex god. Reed Richards could easily turn his penis into a hentai tentacle monster.

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While I do think thatthe Mutants have a rightful place in the regular comic verse, I agree that bringing them into the MCU at this point would be a horrible idea.
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