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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Hawkeye was in Thor. The only one who made a cameo in Hulk was Tony in the stinger.
My various fanfics.Not sure about the first question, but definitely Hulk in Thor for the second question.
Black Widow was awful in IM 2, and I'm of mixed and conflicted feelings about Iron Man's overall role in Spider-Man Homecoming, whereas while it's a shame Hulk legally can't get more to himself and it sucks that his arc completely derailed Thor's own story, the actual arc itself was a delight.
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My bad. We knew that's what I meant, I just typed the wrong thing.
Hawkeye in Thor was special because it wasn't anywhere close to a real character introduction, but it was a clear sign to the fans that there's a lot more out there than we see. That, and the map in Iron Man 2.
That said, my favorite was definitely Falcon in Ant-Man. I'd just stepped out to use the bathroom cause I figured I wouldn't miss much in the couple seconds I'd be out of the theater, then I walk back in and see my favorite Avenger on the screen, and I'm like "WHAAAAA..." And then he's back for the Luis story at the end to make it even better.
As far as major supporting roles go, I actually would have to say Black Widow in Iron Man 2. For that same interconnectedness, and because of the three I'd remembered and listed above, she was actaully likeable. Banner was a people user, and Stark couldn't get out of his own way (though he tried), and kept his streak of being responsible for MCU villains going.
Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Dec 30th 2018 at 11:09:36 AM
IMO, Natasha's inclusion and portrayal in IM 2 wasn't particularly great. It's the one that most sexualizes her and portrays her for fanservice, and she's part of the SHIELD plot that greatly detracts from the movie and takes up time that could have been used to flesh out Vanko and make the script not a jumbled mess.
The jank is real with IM 2 in a lot of ways. I had some fun with it but I'm glad I didn't have to pay money to see it.
Anyway, Bruce/Hulk was one of the absolute best parts of Ragnarok which is interesting to think about since I'd never cared much for him prior. Guess that makes three or four characters Taika fixed up, depending on your view.
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)Even though I find Ragnarok just okay, Hulk is definitely the best part of the movie, and the one that feels the most like The Hulk from the comics, instead of the Godzilla-Gorilla they usually run with in the movies.
My various fanfics.Vanko could have been great as an Evil Counterpart for Tony, if he had more screentime.
As he is, he is still more engaging than Killian though. Most unengaging MCU villain by far for me.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianI think for me the least engaging villain has to be Malekith. Hell, he and Thor barely interact and whenever they do Malekith has some generic villain line. Such a waste of Christopher Eccleston, which is a huge crime in my book.
"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."Malekith might have been boring, but at least he generated some level of menance.
Killian, I just couldn't take seriously even 1 second, especially so when he became a fire-wielding super-nerd.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianThat is the magic of Spider-Man that the movies, due to existing in a vacuum, have never been able to adequately depict.
Spider-Man isn't the strongest hero. He's not the fastest, the smartest, or the guy with the best powers. He might not even be the funniest. But he is the very distilled essence of the superhero.
Every character has their area of expertise. Iron Man fights corporate espionage. Captain America fights Nazis, terrorists, and Nazi terrorists. Thor fights god-tier super-beings from across the Nine Realms. Dr. Strange fights extradimensional horrors. DareDevil fights crime.
But Spider-Man's "thing" is that he doesn't really have a "thing". He's defined by his inability to walk away from a bad thing that's happening. It doesn't matter what it is. He's been everywhere, he knows everyone, he's done everything, because Spider-Man is a meddler. You could be having a totally internal throwdown with your archnemesis in Times Square, but Spider-Man saw this happening, so now Spider-Man's a part of this. If it ain't his business, then he makes it his business.
This means Spider-Man can be fighting alien space wizards on Monday, battling anti-mutant terrorists on Tuesday, throwing down with the Mafia on Wednesday, stopping the release of Hell on Earth Thursday, and then walking an old lady across a street on Friday before stopping in for a cup of joe. He doesn't have a preference. He'll fight whatever evil you've got.
So. Yeah. Looking forward to Far From Home specifically because of that, "This guy was on Titan, he fought Thanos, and now he's here dealing with whatever the f*ck this is."
Y'know, it's interesting to me that people hold the sex tape against Tony - which, let's be real, there probably are sex tapes of Tony stark floating around the fictional internet - and not that time when Ultimate Stark installed a killswitch in his wife.
Ultimate Universe Tony married Natasha, but she was actually a spy infiltrating the Avengers to kill them all. As a wedding present, Tony gave Nat her own Iron Man suit, with a neural implant to help her control it. However, while he was tinkering around with her implant, he also installed a killswitch that he could use to shut down her body if she betrayed him.
That killswitch saved the day, while also being up there on the list of sickest goddamn f*cking things that Marvel heroes have ever done to women, which makes the fact that it heroically saved the day awful.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 31st 2018 at 8:12:26 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Nick Cage named himself after Luke Cage, if you didn't already know. He's a Coppola, but wanted to earn his film career on his own merits, and chose the name of one of his favorite comic characters to do so. And I gotta say, I like how he went with a non-white hero to do so, but left it understated.
SHIELD as well as Vanko both fit in to Iron Man 2 because they were both part of his father's history coming back to roost. (also, Vanko wasn't evil, until the third act fight) The part that didn't fit was the "Demon in a Bottle" arc, which honestly they should have saved for 3.
I want to watch Cloak and Dagger eventually because they were some of the most interesting characters to me as a kid. I just might not, unless I hear a lot of good about both the quality of the show and it doing the characters justice.
Cloak/Dagger was a mixed bag for me. It had many good concepts, but the execution left a lot to be desired for me.
For me, Tyrone and O'Reilly carried the season. Those 2 were truly great characters to root for. I couldn't really get into Tandy's character however, and the villains weren't great either.
Plus the constant dream sequences and the whole religious symbolism/prophecy stuff kinda turned me off (I'm a non-denominational Atheist, just for clarification, so I might not be unbiased in that regard).
That said, I still kinda enjoyed the show and the special effects were great. Season 1 was a decent foundation and I hope Season 2 will be much stronger.
Edited by Forenperser on Dec 31st 2018 at 5:28:07 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianI'd have loved to see Ty and Tandy in the movies, mostly to see creative and visually stunning use of powers, but hey, at least they're getting a depiction.
Also, of all hero film universes, X-Men shows power in the most visually appealing way. That's one of the reasons I don't want them to join the MCU. That, plus:
- A large mutant population and anti-mutant bias makes less sense in a world with every other type of power imaginable
- Combining would likely mean less time for secondary characters
- No more reboots, please
- I may just be a Fan Hater when fans have what I see as "shallow" reasons for wanting some things to happen. See: Waluigi
> Nick Cage named himself after Luke Cage, if you didn't already know. He's a Coppola, but wanted to earn his film career on his own merits, and chose the name of one of his favorite comic characters to do so. And I gotta say, I like how he went with a non-white hero to do so, but left it understated.
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Cap's the only one who has a completely good trilogy. To me, Thor 1 was good, Thor 2 was whatever, and Thor 3 was pretty good, except it didn't feel like a Thor story.
Hmm... I'm just gonna keep throwing discussion points out there. What was the most fun cameo by an Avenger? We've got:
And who had the best major supporting role in another hero's movie:
Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Dec 30th 2018 at 11:04:38 AM