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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Actually, I like that it didn’t use the Avengers theme - personally I think the movie itself shouldn’t use it, or at least not in full, until the height of the climax. Save that goodness for one hell of a money shot.
I don't know that I'd be able to watch such a scene with a straight face.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"We're probably going to have a bit where literally all the heroes currently in the MCU line up and charge Thanos together, prefaced by someone (probably Cap) saying "Avengers Assemble!" and with the Avengers theme blaring like the horns of heaven.
Something like this,
◊ but bigger.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 8th 2018 at 10:13:35 AM
Yeah, no. Some lines from the comics can never be taken seriously when spoken out loud, and that is definitely one of those.
As do I. Even though I don't hate Whedon as so many have come to, his interest in trolling people by not saying Avengers Assemble was kinda annoying. It's basically the only thing missing from the movies.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Dec 8th 2018 at 2:47:02 AM
One Strip! One Strip!I always saw that as one of those misguided attempts to milk hype (kind of like hiding the title of Avengers 4). The comics portion of the fanbase is small enough that trolling the audience by not saying the line just leaves everyone confused.
I remember more of than a few reactions, and even a few "this bit from Age of Ultron explained" videos, dealing with people legit assuming there was an editing problem and the movie ended mid-line.
Meanwhile, I don't think comics fans were so clamoring for it that making jokes out of not saying it made a lot of sense when directed at them either.
Either put the line in or don't. While I'd prefer it show up against once, given how iconic it is, making jokes about not doing it just pointless.
A lot of it comes down to timing. In the time after the first Avengers came out, audiences have become more critical of certain trends in media that Whedon frequently employed which were once Fair for Its Day, but the fact that he continues to use them despite loudly proclaiming himself to be a progressive left a bad taste in people's mouths. As well as the movie raising the hackles of the notoriously shipping-obsessed MCU fanbase and busting many headcanons, even before the accusations of infidelity came out.
I remember one reviewer jokingly suggested that the reason Avengers: Age of Ultron cut-off the "Avengers, Assemble" line was because Chris Evans kept flubbing the line and that was the best they could salvage.
Personally, while it's not going to break the movie for me, they probably should include the line. After teasing something like that, you don't just ignore it. It's kind of like how Age of Ultron teased that Cap might lift Mjolnir one day, only for Thor: Ragnarok to throw that idea out the window by having it get destroyed. Now we're never going to see Steve wield Mjolnir in the films, unless they have time travel shenanigans.
I also wonder if Whedon planned to include a scene like that in Infinity War had he decided to stay on as director. I feel like he had different ideas of where to take the story and probably would've kept it restrained to one film. Not to say the film would've been better or worse under his watch, but I think it would've been a very different experience.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Dec 8th 2018 at 2:17:33 PM
I'm just spelling what I feel it's the general consensus, honestly.
I like Ao U, actually, far better than the first one (which I think it's trash), I just feel a lot of the backwash Whedon had from that movie was rather overblown.
Not that I expect any sanity or common decency from shippers, really, but still.
I don't think that the Backlash against Ao U had anything to do with "shipping" in the usual sense.
Considering how much of the backwash against the movie was centered around the break-up of the "Black Hawk" (named by myself), I'll have to disagree.
While I agree that the romance between Natasha and Bruce was poorly developed, I've seen a lot, and I do mean a lot of hatred directed towards Clinton's family, little of which was actually about how much the whole segment essentially pulls the brakes on the pacing.
It died down as time passed, but it was quite prevalent back during release.
Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 8th 2018 at 5:05:11 PM
Clintasha never was THAT big of a thing in the fandom. The backlash against the romance was more about the very unfortunate "monster" scene and about the little fact that the last time we saw those two characters the Hulk nearly killed Natasha. Going from that to "I am so in love with the guy who is nearly old enough to be my father and can't have sex ever that I'll just leave my team behind me and give up being an Avenger" is a little bit much.
Well, it's about what I meant when I said it was poorly developed.
Personally, I dig, and I do think it makes sense when viewed from a different angle: Natasha never really had a chance of just living a "normal live", but nobody "normal" would be really capable of connecting with her. Bruce knows what it's like to have blood on your hands while also being her one chance at normalcy.
Could work really well, but as I said, Whedon definitely let the ball drop on that one.

Ok, so I know I'm late to the party, but I only watched the 2nd Cap Marvel trailer now, so sue.
My general impressions are as follows:
All in all, nice trailer.
Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 8th 2018 at 3:23:31 PM