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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#91976: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:08:51 PM

[up][up][up] I'd be more on board with that if it didn't have the whole "half of humanity's dead" thing. Also, Groot and the other Guardians, so...yeah, kinda puts a damper on any funny alien celebrity headcanons.

Maybe later in the timeline?

Oh God! Natural light!
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#91977: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:12:40 PM

I'm sure Rocket would be horribly depressed while being a regular talk show hostee. A real Bojack Horseman.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#91978: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:13:04 PM

Maaaaaaan, I am not ready to see Rocket's state in this film.

And he probs still doesn't know about the rest of the Guardians. What if he spends most of the movie clinging to the slim hope that the rest of his adopted family is alive, and then Nebula shows up alone and his spirit is utterly crushed?

That would be extremely cruel and heartbreaking, almost inhumane thing to do with your audience, Russos. Get it to the screen, damn it!

[up][up][up]I know, I was joking.

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 7th 2018 at 10:13:23 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#91979: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:15:46 PM

Ah yes, and Tony Stark makes touchdown with Earth while Rocket is mid interview, so the entire nation sees him learning his entire found family is dead live.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#91980: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:16:43 PM

God, would people even be able to have stuff like talk shows anymore? I mean, you will know someone who's died. Hell, there's a very good chance you saw it happen to somebody. Half of humanity, gone. How do you come back from that? That's, like, Class S Depression or something.

Oh God! Natural light!
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#91981: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:18:48 PM

There would probably still be talk shows but they would more resemble group therapy sessions.

This song needs more love.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#91982: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:19:07 PM

Great! I want to salt the popcorn with my tears!

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91983: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:23:47 PM

It’s gonna take a long, long, loooooooong time before anyone gets used to it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#91984: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:30:06 PM

Judging by how Holocaust survivors act, I'd say they'd never get used to it, but two or three generations down the line their descendants will just remember it as that really sad assignment for History class.

Though of course it's going to be undone one way or another before it gets that far.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#91985: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:34:05 PM

Well, the Holocaust was quite a bit more hardcore than just losing loved ones suddenly, but otherwise, I agree.

When this movie's released, I really want an AU continuation fanfic where the Decimation was never fixed.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#91986: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:40:08 PM

Now that I think about it post-apocalyptic is a genre the MCU has yet to try.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#91987: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:44:42 PM

There's plenty the MCU has yet to try, really, but that one in particular will likely only happen with alternate timelines.

Speaking of which, what do you guys think of Marvel doing "Graphic Novel"-style films? Y'know, stories with these characters that take place outside canon, like Punisher MAX and Earth X?

I think it would be pretty dope, Logan was essentially one, and it's pretty much the best superhero movie ever made.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#91988: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:47:14 PM

Bear in mind, Earth's population halved is basically the same as it was in 1969. Several generations more, and the majority of humans will treat it as the past.

...until Thanos comes back to Snap all over again. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 7th 2018 at 5:47:38 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#91989: Dec 7th 2018 at 5:49:44 PM

Not even a day and 31 mi already.

What was the overall growth of the A:IW trailer numbers?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#91991: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:43:46 PM

Okay, so can somebody tell me why this title 'Endgame' was a spoiler, and for what? I mean, I understand (kind of) why they wouldn't tell us until after Infinity War was out for a while: audiences may have been familiar with the plot of IW from the comic, but the title of Avengers 4 might've given away the fact that they actually went through with the Snap in IW. But after that? I'm pretty sure by June or July everybody knew how IW ended, whether they've seen the movie or not. And I thought it was widely know that Avengers 4 would be the last Avengers movie in the franchise, so how is knowing it's called Endgame a spoiler?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#91992: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:48:35 PM

Did you know that you can just lie to people? It's true.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 7th 2018 at 8:49:07 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91993: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:53:46 PM

It isn’t, really. I said this on the Avengers 4 thread too, but the name is actually rather generic on its own, and while it does reference a line from a pivotal moment in Infinity War, you have to already know the scene to get why.

On its own, it doesn’t tell you anything about Infinity War.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#91994: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:56:15 PM

Just you wait: at the end of Avengers 4, all of the Avengers are going to play D&D. And then the game will end, just like the title of the movie foretold.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#91995: Dec 7th 2018 at 8:58:48 PM

Natasha: "This is gonna work, Steve."

Steve: "I know it will. Because I don't know what I'm gonna do if it doesn't."

Steve turns to the DM

"I'd like to roll to seduce Thanos, please."

camera pans to the DM, revealing Stan Lee

DM: "...Make a Charisma check."

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#91998: Dec 7th 2018 at 11:14:48 PM

[up][up][up]

Natasha:....why?

Steve: To be honest, Im out of ideas so I just think what would tony do in this situation.

Natasha:.....Yeah, I can see why.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91999: Dec 7th 2018 at 11:17:04 PM

Considering Vin Diesel is apart of the cast I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone’s played at least one round of Dn D.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#92000: Dec 7th 2018 at 11:25:06 PM

It would have been a spoiler because if we had known about the title while watching Infinity War, and heard Steven saying the phrase "we are in the Endgame now", we might have guessed that whatever happens next, it won't be enough to defeat Thanos. But the entire finale hinges on the notion that the Avengers could. That we would think, if only for a split second, that Thor actually succeeded when he rams Stormbreaker into Thanos body.

After that hiding the title was simply marketing, though.

I have one issue with the Trailer: I wish they had used the Avengers theme.

Edited by Swanpride on Dec 8th 2018 at 3:06:12 AM


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