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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91776: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:04:42 PM

I tell you one thing, the Dramatic Irony in this movie is going to be great.

When she said "I'm part of a team of spacefaring heroes! We're the called the Kree" I actually burst out laughing. Poor Carol.

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Lost in Space
#91777: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:06:41 PM

I don't know... I caught a bit of a smile at the end of that statement, like she realizes how ridiculous it is. But maybe she does take it at face value at the start. That's an interesting character development arc and, for bonus points, one that hasn't been done to death.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#91778: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:06:59 PM

It's going to be interesting seeing how Carol will react to finding out her great cause is all a lie. Similar to the twist of The Winter Soldier, except we already have an idea of the Kree's mission being more fundamentally rotten thanks to GOTG.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91779: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:08:48 PM

That's the really dumb thing about the critiques, they seem to be taking everything at absolute face-value without any form of self-awareness.

Seriously a monkey could tell that everything is not all that seems in this trailer

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#91780: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:09:09 PM

Yeah, if you've seen most of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., you'll know that the Kree are not nice people. Ronan's definitely the worst of the lot, but a vast majority of them don't give a crap about humanity.

Speaking of, I wonder how Ronan will be portrayed in this film. He's obviously going to start off on Carol's side, but will we see his Start of Darkness in this film or will he already be a genocidal prick? It'd be pretty weird if they start giving him some more sympathetic qualities considering he's one of the MCU's most sadistic villains.

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#91781: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:10:31 PM

I feel like they kinda composited Carol and Mar-Vell for the film, which is neat. What I'm getting from the trailer is that Carol got punched in the face with the Amnesia Stick and then the Kree made her Mar-Vell.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91782: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:25:24 PM

Oh wow I just tried going to the Cap. Marvel YMMV page & I found out it was cut.

What the fuck happened to it?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#91783: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:26:43 PM

For the film,it's not out yet so maybe it's too soon to act reactions

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
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Lost in Space
#91784: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:31:29 PM

We have a recently adopted rule about YMMV subpages for unreleased works. As in, we don't permit them.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91785: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:39:17 PM

So is that gonna apply to Avengers 4 & Spider-Man: Far From Home at some point?

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 4th 2018 at 3:43:48 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#91786: Dec 4th 2018 at 4:02:38 PM

Probably for the best going by what happened in the YMMY of previous unreleased shows.

By the way, i really loved the scenes of her blasting stuff in space.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#91787: Dec 4th 2018 at 7:45:35 PM

The American Film Institute named Black Panther one of the top 10 films of the year[1]

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#91789: Dec 4th 2018 at 7:56:40 PM

Okay, answer me this: how can Mary Poppins Returns be one of those Films of the Year if it hasn't come yet? Do the people who choose awards get to see these movies early? Or are they just anticipating that it's good?

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Not really a lord of anything
#91791: Dec 4th 2018 at 9:49:41 PM

Turns out the movie is so good that it transcends time.

This song needs more love.
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it's a living
#91792: Dec 4th 2018 at 10:00:21 PM

Sergeant Mary Popinski, the Angel of Verdun, Returns.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#91793: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:38:12 PM

Who knows...in any case, it was an excellent year for Superhero movies. We had...let's see...unless I forgot something eight this year and so far the only one which didn't get positive reviews is Venom. And even that one to its audience.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91794: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:52:35 PM

And people say superheroes are dying.

....... Well hopefully Aquaman's great.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#91795: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:53:26 PM

I liked Venom. I think a lot of critics were too busy calling the movie "dumb" and "mindless" and laughing at it to realize two important things. One, that it was totally a dark rom-com, and a lot of those scenes were meant to be funny. Two, that it actually had a complete thematic throughline and character arc for the protagonist. Eddie starts out with an inability to control his impulses and he acts before he thinks, which ruins his career and romantic relationship. After getting saddled with an alien which is even more impulsive, Eddie learns to control his impulsiveness by the end, even teaching Venom how.

Personally, I also found Eddie extremely relatable, from a Millenial point of view. At the start of the film he's like a walking depression meme.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 4th 2018 at 12:55:08 PM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#91796: Dec 5th 2018 at 12:19:39 AM

The internet loves Venom for how dumb it is.

Mostly the monsterfuckers.

My various fanfics.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#91797: Dec 5th 2018 at 12:22:04 AM

No one will ever be able to convince me that Venom is anything more than So Bad it's Good at best.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91798: Dec 5th 2018 at 12:25:47 AM

[up][up] The slash-fics can confirm that.

Everyone wants a romantic-partner like Venom. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 5th 2018 at 12:26:21 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#91799: Dec 5th 2018 at 12:36:04 AM

I found Venom to be, while not exactly a brilliant film, still highly entertaining. It really understood and fully embraced the campy and over the top nature of the character from the comics, instead of trying to play everything super serious and grimdark, which was definitely a wise decision, as it wouldn't have worked if they went for the latter direction.

Anyways, as for the Captain Marvel trailer, I'm a bit meh on it. Mainly because of Larson's Dull Surprise acting throughout the whole thing. Like, I know you are playing a serious character, but you could at the very least try to emote just a little bit more than just a small smile at the best of times. She played Envy Adams and Molly Tracey, so I know she can do better and more expressive acting.

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#91800: Dec 5th 2018 at 12:58:39 AM

To be fair, it doesn't help when the actual writers for the Venom comics respond to questions like this:

Q: "What happens if Eddie gets an erection while in Venom form? Does it show on Venom's outer body, or does the symbiote cover it up?"

With answers like this:

A: "The symbiote takes care of it."

...Yeah, apparently Eddie and the Venom symbiote were a canonical married couple for years in the comics, and the Venom movie was the perfect thing to get people interested in the character and pairing enough to learn about it.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 5th 2018 at 1:58:58 PM


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