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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91701: Dec 4th 2018 at 12:03:28 AM

If that cat doesn't end the movie with a tiny little eyepatch I'll riot.

Alternatively, this.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 4th 2018 at 12:06:57 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#91702: Dec 4th 2018 at 12:10:24 AM

Here is the thing between Disney and Netflix: If Disney had been the one making the decision to pull the plug, wouldn't Marvel know in time? This whole messy cancellation directly after the season aired thing is Netflix style, not Disney's.

I actually think that the lack of hype and buzz surrounding the last seasons of the Netflix shows is waaaaaay more related.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#91703: Dec 4th 2018 at 12:38:52 AM

[up][up]That's a bit cruel don't you think?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91704: Dec 4th 2018 at 12:39:40 AM

Huh I just got another idea from some scouring internet comment sections.

They could keep Shang-Chi being the son of a super-villain, but instead of Fu Manchu they can use the Mandarin which could finally bring back the whole real Mandarin biz teased all the back to that short years ago.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#91705: Dec 4th 2018 at 12:44:56 AM

The cat could be a Skrull, right?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#91706: Dec 4th 2018 at 1:57:33 AM

The interesting part of the trailer is that Captain Marvel actually thinks that the Kree (or all people) are the "right" side in this conflict. This movie could end up being a brilliant commentary on wars by proxy.

IronScope STOP. RESETTING. MY. DISPLAY. OPTIONS. from Somewhere Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
STOP. RESETTING. MY. DISPLAY. OPTIONS.
#91707: Dec 4th 2018 at 2:15:02 AM

Conecpt: The cat is fine, Fury just puts an eyepatch on it for the sake of it.

This place is careless.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#91708: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:31:35 AM

Oh, hell yeah! This trailer has me pumped even more than the first one, if that's even possible.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#91709: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:48:59 AM

The main thing I wanted out of this movie was Captain Marvel being a goddamn Super Saiyan, and this trailer delivered on that GLORIOUSLY. Like, I'm also really excited for the story of her coming to terms with herself as a 'Kree' and as a Human and the inevitable point where she learns that the Kree aren't as good as she's been led to think they are, but DID YOU SEE THAT PART OF THE TRAILER WHERE SHE WAS FLYING THROUGH SPACE AND SHOOTING ENERGY BLASTS AT STUFF AND THAT SHOT WHERE SHE CREATED A WAVE OF ENERGY AND THAT SHOT WHERE HER HAIR WAS STANDING UP AND GLOWING, OH MY GOD!

Drakon69 The dragon archnerd from greece Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The dragon archnerd
#91710: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:57:33 AM

That trailer is dope as fuck

Mizerous@ why so i may ask

Swanpride@ yes please that sounds awesome

I honestly din't expect shang-chi to get a movie but i am happy

And as usualy people really like to throw the words sjw and mcu doomed around about captain marvel

Edited by Drakon69 on Dec 4th 2018 at 2:18:29 PM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#91711: Dec 4th 2018 at 4:26:57 AM

Captain Marvel will be facing quite an upright battle. Unlike Black Panther, her character wasn't introduced in an earlier movie, and she runs the risk of being overshadowed by Avengers 4. But then, the movie doesn't need to jump the billion mark, it only has made as much as other new franchise movies.

Drakon69 The dragon archnerd from greece Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The dragon archnerd
#91712: Dec 4th 2018 at 4:49:34 AM

[up]Ummm were are you getting at.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#91713: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:04:46 AM

> I wonder if the cat is the reason why Nick Fury lost his eye.

As a boy he never listened to "You'll shoot your eye out,kid"

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#91714: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:14:28 AM

Just managing expectations. I am sure that Captain Marvel will successful, but there is a danger that the bar is set so high that the narrative will be that it isn't.

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#91715: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:16:28 AM

Could the Kree and Skrulls know the Tesseract is on Earth and are going after it? Project PEGASUS logos were in the Captain Marvel trailer.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#91716: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:37:05 AM

Trailer does looks pretty solid, but I'm not expecting it to feel as fresh as Black Panther, or as emotionally connecting as the first Captain America. Doctor Strange set the bar for new franchises so low though that I don't think I'll hate it either. I do appreciate the seeming focus on her youth though. While the other franchises like Iron Man and Black Panther have talked about it and occasionally shown us scenes of their childhoods, Captain America is the only other franchise I can think of that's put as much focus on it.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#91717: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:39:41 AM

Huh? I loved Strange. But I apparently possess the rare ability to accept movies organically without insisting they live up to arbitrary standards established by others.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91718: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:42:04 AM

At the very least this is their first female led movie so hopefully they don't bungle.

Sure it may not be "innovative" or "groundbreaking" but that's not what's important. What's important is that its good and entertaining.

After all Wonder Woman wasn't an original film but it was still a damn good film to watch regardless.

[up] There is a general level of quality though.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 4th 2018 at 5:42:46 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#91719: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:44:36 AM

There is a general level of quality though.

Bullshit. Pardon my French, but quality of entertainment is a one hundred percent subjective factor. The idea that there are arbitrary and objective standards for what makes a good work is one of the cancerous tumors eating away at media fandom that is largely responsible for its toxicity.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#91720: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:45:38 AM

Audio quality/mixing, camera shot quality, sets and lighting, and basic editing are predominantly objective.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91721: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:47:31 AM

I can enjoy a movie via being entertained by it but still acknowledge if its plot, characters, or special effects are shit.

Like I liked Venom but I'm not gonna say its a particularly good movie cause it had problems.

I can also enjoy the Bayformers films but that won't stop me from stating that they are fucking shite.

[up] Suicide Squad has really, really bad editing for one.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 4th 2018 at 5:48:32 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#91722: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:48:37 AM

[up][up] Yeah, but I noticed none of those problems with Doctor Strange, so I don't see the point. The editing and camera work were fine — or at least there was nothing to take me out of suspension of disbelief.

[up] Oh, the Bayformers films are absolute shite, largely because the plots are completely incoherent, but I acknowledge that some people may like them. They certainly made enough money, didn't they?

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 4th 2018 at 8:55:30 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#91723: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:56:30 AM

Strange was technically competent but felt soulless with an unsympathetic main character, threadbare woo-filled script, and one-dimensional supporting cast, whose most compelling character Mordo also lacked enough substance to justify the logic of his Face–Heel Turn. There's also the external race fail but even had they gotten it right it wouldn't have made the movie less dull. If you're exposed to enough video games then its special effects selling point also loses its luster.

I genuinely tried to give it a chance and still came away disappointed.

Edited by AlleyOop on Dec 4th 2018 at 9:00:56 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#91724: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:59:00 AM

Ya know I think that animated Doctor Strange movie that came out in 2007 was pretty good I think.

Haven't seen it in a while but I fondly remember it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#91725: Dec 4th 2018 at 6:12:30 AM

[up][up] See, I thought Strange's character arc was quite interesting. But this is where subjective evaluations of quality come into play. You just said it's technically competent, so there is no objective platform for disliking it.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

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