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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Sure, but there is something really f... up about taking a child from a different culture (species, actually) and then raising it in the belief to be part of your culture while also telling it that members of their original "race" are bloodthirsty monsters. Any child which then learns that it is actually part of the people it was taught to hate would most likely lose it. Except that they aren't kind of gods in terms of power.
Odin made some bad choices. It's hard to see the decision to take Loki and subsequent decision to raise him in ignorance about his natural heritage as anything other than cultural imperialism, especially in light of what "Ragnarok" revealed about Asgard and Odin's history.
This in no way absolves Loki of his own terrible choices, especially the attempted genocide of the Jotuns - the ultimate extension of Odin's imperialistic influence, intended or not, on his children. Children become what their parents raise them to be; despite his best intentions in his later years, Odin wound up teaching Loki to violently reject his Jotun blood all the same.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 28th 2018 at 9:22:04 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Indeed. That new eye of his may have been up a raccoon's bum previously, but that's still an improvement over the alternative.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I thought Odin was pretty bad back when Thor had just come out, tbh. One son is a jerk ass frat boy that's willing to get his friends and brother killed over a petty insult ("Run home little princess") and start an all out war, and Loki's a jerk ass with a mountain of pent up daddy issues that's already manifesting in reckless behavior (letting the frost giants in during the coronation.) Odin's either managed to completely overlook these nasty traits in his kids, or he's chosen to not address them until after a literal war almost breaks out because of them.
"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."Odin is clearly meant to be seen as a jerkass, yes. I'm not sure how that could have come across any more clearly. I mean, maybe everyone is blinded by Anthony Hopkins' face into missing that... but have they seen any of his other work?
Edited by Fighteer on Nov 28th 2018 at 12:07:52 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I recall the writer of Thor referred to Odin as “the dad from Sanford and Son.”
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I don't know, I thought the first movie was meant to portray him as a wise and sympathetic figure. Thor literally says at the end something to the effect of, "You're a good father." And I remember thinking, "...ehhhhhhh."
Edited by Zanthype on Nov 28th 2018 at 9:12:06 AM
"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."On the subject of Thor's eyepatch, am I the only one here who kinda preferred that look? The gag about the prosthetic eye being smuggled up Rocket's bum is funny, but I feel like giving Thor his eye back so soon after Ragnarok (in the same film that gives him a replacement for his hammer) is too... status-quo Reset Button-ish. Like undoing all the damage Ragnarok inflicted upon him rather than letting him amass some changes and wounds.
Plus eyepatches are badass.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I think it is pretty obvious that Odin failed with both of his sons from the get go. Thor's arrogance wasn't exactly easy to overlook before he nearly started a war, nor is it surprising that Loki feels less loved even before the whole f... up story about his true heritage was revealed.
I kind of adore the confrontation between Loki and Odin, because it is so raw. And yes, we are meant to understand that Odin loves Loki but being well-meaning doesn't translate into being a good father or a good ruler for that matter.
Nah, I don't miss it at all. Thor is Thor, he doesn't need to look like Odin.
Edited by Swanpride on Nov 28th 2018 at 9:52:16 AM

Loki is no hero. He's a threat! A menace!