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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90951: Nov 14th 2018 at 5:13:02 PM

I don't know...if the only black mark in his record is something he did as a teenager and he repented for, this kind of belongs on the "you need to give people a second chance" pile.

He is a hammy actor, though.

Leto...I have only heard about his behaviour on the Suicide Squad set and that was enough for me. Sending your female co-stars used condoms is sexual harassment in my book, no matter which role he plays or how "method" he is.

CommanderAce Commander Thor from Planet Earth, United States Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Commander Thor
#90952: Nov 14th 2018 at 5:13:21 PM

[up][up] If I recall, their agency (WME) is also the same one where an agent groped Terry Crews, so I suspect there's a nasty culture behind it. Although then again since Creative Artists was known to have had senior personnel send people to Weinstein, I have little reason to trust talent agencies and suspect all of them have a toxic view towards women and sexual violence survivors.

[up] Granted, given the nature of the attacks were racial in motivation, I feel uneasy with trusting Wahlberg doing right even if he went to jail and supposedly apologized, so I can't argue with people who don't like him. Plus, the whole Kevin Spacey removal situation is pretty gross. With Jared Leto, I've heard whispers about him being a rapist on his band tours pop up in comments when he's involved with something, although I haven't heard or found any specific accusations beyond the "he's a sexual predator".

Edited by CommanderAce on Nov 14th 2018 at 6:18:15 AM

Power of Thor!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90953: Nov 14th 2018 at 5:25:12 PM

Yeah, the Spacey story is gross...didn't know about it because I really don't pay attention to Wahlberg.

I also understand that the racial aspect is difficult. But if (if!!!!) this were a "he did this as a teen, but apologized for it and has done nothing along the line since then", I would follow the principle that people who have repented deserve a (mostly) clean slate. Until they do something along the line again.

If he did, he can burn.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#90954: Nov 14th 2018 at 7:00:27 PM

Although there are people who shed racist beliefs, I personally suspect that while Wahlberg is now law-abiding, he probably still feels the same bigotry but keeps it closer to the vest.

It's kind of darkly funny that he's seen as sort of like a human avatar of Boston, because Boston itself has an infamous reputation for racism among its citizenry.

Back on topic though, in terms of my thought on Hardy in the MCU, my basically thought was to use for both humor and pathos the idea of him being a Darker and Edgier hero, coupled with the fact that Peter is our POV character and the film is considerably more family friendly. So Eddie would talk about eating people but would never actually do it in the movie, and sort of be a Bad Butt character.

Essentially, Eddie would be kind of like how Batman is in stories where Batman isn't the main/POV character. But a Batman who dialed up the Horrifying Hero image and kept talking about eating people.

Edited by Hodor2 on Nov 14th 2018 at 9:02:36 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90955: Nov 14th 2018 at 7:03:18 PM

Well Venom was pg-13 & that got away with some cannibalism.

So the MCU should be able to do it too.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#90956: Nov 14th 2018 at 7:32:27 PM

If Eddie appears in a crossover film, like, do we still hear Venom's voice in his head?

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#90957: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:57:08 PM

It would actually be pretty funny if we only ever saw Brock's half of the conversation apparently apropos of nothing, though it could veer into narm very easily.

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#90958: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:36:44 AM

Imagine if the Phase 5 villains were the Squadron Supreme.

With Henry Cavill as Hyperion.

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#90959: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:42:10 AM

Only if they use CGI to hide his moustache.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#90960: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:42:40 AM

Any live action Squadron supreme has to cast actors who previously portrayed the DC equivalent characters. That's the rule.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#90961: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:46:57 AM

Alright, so that's Henry Cavill as Hyperion

Linda Carter as Power Princess

Kyle Gallner as The Blur

Christian Bale as Nighthawk, although I'll also accept Val Kilmer

Matthew Settleas Doc Spectrum

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Nov 15th 2018 at 3:47:26 PM

My various fanfics.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#90962: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:48:45 AM

Surprised you didn't go for Ben Afflek and Ryan Reynolds.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#90963: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:53:22 AM

Reynolds is busy and Ben Affleck can inhale farts.

EDIT: Although I've always wanted to use Supreme Power Nighthawk so I can get Keith David in the MCU.

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Nov 15th 2018 at 3:54:20 PM

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#90964: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:19:55 AM

(reads all the staff above about wahlberg leto and depp)

oh...umm i had heard the staff about depp but a never realy looked in to it i personly think you are been a little too hard on leto but yeah the condoms are too hardcore.

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#90965: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:50:35 AM

[up][up]So, what's wrong with Ben Affleck?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90967: Nov 15th 2018 at 4:11:50 AM

Ya know now that I think about it, I wouldn’t mind adapting Matt Fraction’s Hawkeye series only with Kate in place of Clint as long as they don’t hold back on how much of a loser Kate would be in place of Clint.

Cause a very flawed female loser protagonist would be fun especially with how they mess up so much yet still have at least several badass moments in spite of their own flaws.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90968: Nov 15th 2018 at 5:30:12 AM

Sounds good...I mean, they basically adapted the whole Hawkeye/Mockingbird dynamic on Ao S by replacing Clint with Hunter. They can easily use great story ideas for different characters.

They could even make Kate Bishop deaf.

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#90969: Nov 15th 2018 at 8:14:56 AM

[up][up][up]Affleck was also named in a number of testimonies as one of Harvey Weinstein’s hush-people.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#90970: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:13:53 PM

Rumor going around is that Marvel is looking at Travis Knight (Kubo and the Two Strings, Bumblebee) to direct Guardians vol. 3.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
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#90972: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:38:33 PM

Oh, wow, already?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90973: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:50:43 PM

Wait...WHAT???? Last year we were praying that there would even be a sixth season. They even wrote the fifth season in a way that it would have been a great series finale. Just getting a sixth (shorter) one in the summer (and that is summer of 2019, the season isn't even CLOSE to getting aired) was considered a miracle. And now, after all those years of budget cuts and prayers they do an early renewal?

Is this related to the study which showed that Ao S is actually one of the most successful shows currently on air if you use different metrics?

I'm just...ecstatic, but also really, really surprised.

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 16th 2018 at 12:51:26 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#90974: Nov 16th 2018 at 1:00:30 PM

In the article, it's noted that Marvel reduced the licensing fees for the show last year as part of a compromise to get it renewed despite the ratings not being as hot as ABC would like. So the (relative, mind you) cheapness of the show likely played into it getting an early pickup.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90975: Nov 16th 2018 at 1:02:24 PM

Well, if nothing else that means that the show will have at least 136 Episodes. That's quite impressive.


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