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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#90901: Nov 12th 2018 at 3:13:03 PM

Man, haven't visited that site in ages. Is Villanueva still making those MCU clips? I really liked the "Road to Civil War".

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#90902: Nov 12th 2018 at 3:17:47 PM

Goddamn. RIP Stan Lee. sad I really do hope he did film his cameo for Avengers 4...

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#90904: Nov 12th 2018 at 3:48:33 PM

We truly lost a legend here. Everyone's been talking about their favorite Stan Lee cameos, but this one is my personal favorite. In a scene that brought finality to one of Lee's most enduring characters... well, I guess it's just fitting to post now.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Nov 12th 2018 at 6:49:09 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#90905: Nov 12th 2018 at 3:59:38 PM

I read an article a while back that mentioned Stan Lee already recorded his cameos for several movies in advance including Infinity War, Thor Ragnarok, and Avengers 4. I don't remember if they mentioned where it stopped or if Avengers 4 was the last one.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#90906: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:05:32 PM

If one of the characters dies and ends up in the afterlife I expect we'll hear or rather see Stan lee in the background

or he'll be at the pearly white gates and be like "Come on through we've been expecting you"...cue dissolve to credits

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#90907: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:59:00 PM

In a scene that brought finality to one of Lee's most enduring characters... well, I guess it's just fitting to post now.
Even better: Madame Web was voiced by Joan Lee, Stan's wife. He even has a line, "Who is that exotic woman?"

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#90909: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:14:25 PM

...Fuck.

I don't even know what to say. 95 years is a lot of time to get shit done. Rest in peace.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#90910: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:43:10 PM

I'd love the credits of Avengers 4 to just be a compilation of Stan Lee appearances, interlaced with scenes of the people who are permanently killed off, as a memoriam.

The legend has returned.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#90911: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:44:30 PM

Farewell to the one of the last of the oldest, greatest comic book creators.

Excelsior.

Edited by VeryMelon on Nov 12th 2018 at 9:44:49 AM

Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#90912: Nov 13th 2018 at 12:26:54 PM

One thing I'll miss about Stan Lee's cameos is, if you were watching in a theater, you could use them to pinpoint who in the theater wasn't really a Marvel fan, or was just a casual moviegoer, as his cameos often struck those people with confusion. You can see them looking around, puzzled, and often hear them ask "Why's everyone laughing?" or "Why are people applauding this guy?"

I remember when I saw Black Panther in the theater, and when Lee's cameo happened, someone sitting behind me said something along the lines of, "Okay, who IS this old guy that keeps showing up in these movies? Is he the producer's father or something?"

Speaking of Black Panther, that's the only instance where I was ever able to predict when he was going to show up in a film. I work in a casino, and knowing it's a frequent hangout for senior citizens, I remember thinking to myself, "Oh, they're in a casino now? Yeah, Stan Lee's gonna show up here." Sure enough....

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#90914: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:09:23 AM

[up] Squidward at the 0:23 mark is me right now:

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#90915: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:21:44 AM

How close is Homecoming to Venom's numbers?

I wanna know if it's appropriate to say "Crud! We were so close to Venom!" or not.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#90916: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:24:14 AM

[up] Globally speaking, Homecoming got a total of $880,166,924 throughout its run.

EDIT: Domestic-wise, it was $334,201,140 and foreign numbers were $545,965,784.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 14th 2018 at 2:29:09 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#90917: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:37:04 AM

$673M vs. $546M... Eh, close enough.

Crud! We were so close to Venom!

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#90918: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:39:49 AM

[up]So...shall we commence the troubled fetal positions over what this means for MCU!Spidey?

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#90919: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:44:22 AM

I'm not clear on what that tweet means by "Because of its budget, it's the most successful."

Venom has thus far made $677m. If you deduct the $100m budget, you have $577m.

Homecoming made $880m with a $175m budget, bringing it to $705m.

The highest-grossing Spider-Man film of all time, Spider-Man 3, made $891m on a $258m budget, which would bring it to $633m.

If you want to weep for anything Spider-Man related, weep for the fact that Spider-Man 3 is the box-office king of all Spider-Man movies.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 14th 2018 at 12:46:10 PM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#90920: Nov 14th 2018 at 11:52:43 AM

[up] Aw geez, I'm gonna need to crunch the numbers some more.

Homecoming: $705 million - $175 million = $530 million through its whole run.

Venom: $677 million - $100 million = $577 million currently.

Maybe it's a matter of how cheap and fast they can crank out a movie for maximum profit? It's starting to look bad again...

(I hate math...and Sony.) sad

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 14th 2018 at 2:56:19 PM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#90921: Nov 14th 2018 at 12:14:36 PM

Sony: Fuck Spider Man. *Robin glare at Feige*

Just Makima.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#90922: Nov 14th 2018 at 12:37:06 PM

Do you think the opposite might happen and Marvel might agree to canonise Venom into the MCU like Sony originally wanted?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#90923: Nov 14th 2018 at 12:43:13 PM

I'm still trying to figure out if Sony genuinely believes that Kraven and Morbius movies will do as well as Venom.

This song needs more love.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#90924: Nov 14th 2018 at 1:06:14 PM

Venom is a bigger success than Homecoming because movie success isn't measured in subtraction, it's measured in multiplication. This is because all of the profits from the film for investors are measured out in percentages of the film's total gross, which increases as the film makes more and more money.

Venom made back 6.8 times its budget.

Homecoming made back 5 times its budget.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 14th 2018 at 2:07:44 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#90925: Nov 14th 2018 at 1:30:36 PM

[up]

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 14th 2018 at 4:32:36 AM


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