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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#90851: Nov 10th 2018 at 6:52:27 PM

I dont think they will used the multiuniverse at all.

I mean, the movie universe is always being smaller than comic universe, civil war(where they reduce the docent of chararter to.....eleven) is the proof of that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#90852: Nov 10th 2018 at 7:16:15 PM

What Pushover said. I don't expect them to do a bunch of alternate universe takes on the same characters, but I could see them using it as a way of gently hitting certain reset buttons, giving them an option to recast certain parts with younger actors along the lines of Days of Future Past — while still keeping the original cast in their back pocket in the MCU-Prime, as it were. I don't expect them to go into Secret Wars full time for multiple movies anymore than I expected Infinity War to be a years-long Star Wars-style saga, but I do think that it's a good card to have, used judiciously, and it's a big part of the comics in its own way that the Time Stone could be used to introduce.

Or not. It's not a lock or anything, but I think it's plausible and not a bad idea.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#90853: Nov 10th 2018 at 8:47:15 PM

I want Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to realize they are alternate dimension counterparts of each other's sibling, and they bond over each having lost their brother/sister, respectively.
Problem: X-Men's Quicksilver never lost a sister. His sister, as far as I know, is still alive.

Also, I fully expect the MCU to reboot the entire X-Men universe when they finally use them.

Edited by alliterator on Nov 10th 2018 at 8:47:47 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#90854: Nov 10th 2018 at 8:57:50 PM

I thought X-Quicksilver's sister died as part of Magneto's tragic backstory when she and her mom were both killed with the same arrow?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90855: Nov 10th 2018 at 9:07:00 PM

Different sister.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#90856: Nov 10th 2018 at 9:10:51 PM

Not in this continuity. Nina in the movies is basically Magneto's other daughter Anya, who died before the twins were born but had the same mother. She died in a fire in the comics, but it's otherwise similar to what happened in Apocalypse, except the wife and daughter Magneto had in Poland came after his affair with Quicksilver's mom, but (if The Gifted is basing its history on the movies' chain of events) presumably before he met Lorna "Polaris" Dane's mother Suzanna. Confused? Well, it's probably not worth thinking too hard about.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90857: Nov 10th 2018 at 9:14:44 PM

[up][up][up] That Girl was his sister yes but she was his half-sister.

Whom he has absolutely no idea of because she was born long after him & Mags by the point has long settled down with the latters mother’s so he has no connection to her.

Though Quickie lives with another younger sister going by the shot of him at his home in Days during the climax.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90859: Nov 11th 2018 at 2:33:46 PM

I feel I should share this one here, too:

https://news.avclub.com/shocking-new-study-says-that-people-really-like-agents-1830370594

Looks like Agents of Shield is actually the most sought after Marvel show. (Well, it is certainly the best rated one - no kidding, look at the reviews, it does better than all the other Marvel shows).

Guess whoever at Disney keep insisting to keep the show on has been right.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#90860: Nov 11th 2018 at 3:36:17 PM

This shouldn't be especially surprising, considering:

  1. It's the only MCU show with a set schedule (until season 6, that is) and could easily be watched on network TV.
  2. It was hyped when it first aired and viewers may still remember that.
  3. Word of mouth is also a powerful thing and I think a lot of people managed to get into it because of how season four was getting great reviews and word of mouth.
  4. It just has likable characters and interesting plots. A friend of mine said that he could not finish watching Jessica Jones Season 2 at all, but loves AOS.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#90861: Nov 11th 2018 at 3:57:29 PM

If something teach me Marvel is that even if plot can fail at times, the chararter often make for it.

In fact the more I watch DCU, FOX,MCU and everything I will said the more chararter focus a movie, the better.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90862: Nov 11th 2018 at 4:24:38 PM

[up][up] Sure, but international, well, let's put if this way: Considering that unlike Netflix, Broadcast TV is still delayed between when it airs in the US and when it airs everywhere else, fans have to go through some length to stay up to date.

I think what makes Ao S is that is never got stale. How many shows can reach the 100 episode count without feeling as if the show is starting to get kind of tired? And in how many shows do character develop as much as in this one? If you compare Fitzsimmons from the Sciencebaby days to now, it is hard to beliefe that those are the same characters and yet every step on the way made perfectly sense.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90863: Nov 11th 2018 at 4:28:32 PM

The show started with international spy drama & went in to a mystical hellfire car enthusiast with a skull for a head engaging in gang warefare.

Goes to show ya, be varied.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#90864: Nov 11th 2018 at 4:41:59 PM

"If you compare Fitzsimmons from the Sciencebaby days to now, it is hard to beliefe that those are the same characters and yet every step on the way made perfectly sense."

Really? because I kinda find annoying how much both suffer in the course of the show, it seen a some disagree must happen to them every season to milk drama out of it.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#90865: Nov 12th 2018 at 10:08:36 AM

Black Widow character breakdowns[1]

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#90866: Nov 12th 2018 at 10:17:40 AM

That's some interesting stuff. So both of the villains are middle aged, though the primary villain is younger. No gender or race specified for the primary villain (but is supposed to be "exciting," so they're probably The Heavy), but the secondary villain (explicitly "conniving," so probably the Big Bad / The Chessmaster) is explicitly a woman.

I like the article's guess that the "main" villain is Taskmaster. I'd also guess that the secondary villain is either Madame HYDRA, Monica Rappaccini or Lucia Von Bardas.

The secondary characters include a "female Bond," so I'm guessing Jessice Drew. They're also explicitly looking for an African, Middle Eastern or Indian actor for a role, though without character details I'm not sure who that could be.

Then a "bookish American" in his late 20's. If this were a prequel, I'd say a young Bruce Banner (lol), but I'm going to make a really left field guess and say it's Rick Jones. He's not known for being bookish in the comics, but this does strike me as a "sidekick" listing.

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#90868: Nov 12th 2018 at 10:58:17 AM

One of the last great comic book titans has passed on. I have no doubt what the MCU will do for the next Marvel movie.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90869: Nov 12th 2018 at 11:01:16 AM

Cross posting from the Marvel Comicbook thread:

Excelsior Stan.sad

Did I tell you guys I actually met him at a convention? Even asked him a question. I phrased it badly so I didn't quite get the answer I wanted, but I'm still glad I got that chance.

The Marvel Universe is a smaller place now. That much is certain.

I think he was the last of the old school guys too. That's a massive shame I'd say.

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#90870: Nov 12th 2018 at 11:01:17 AM

Goddammit, Thanos.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90871: Nov 12th 2018 at 11:03:23 AM

Thanos didn't do this one friend.

I wish he did, but he didn't.sad

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#90872: Nov 12th 2018 at 11:05:30 AM

Avengers 4 better do a dedication for him or else we riot.

Excelsior...sadsadsad

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90873: Nov 12th 2018 at 11:07:10 AM

Alas may he chill in comic book heaven with the other creators & artists for the rest of eternity. sadsadsadsad

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
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#90874: Nov 12th 2018 at 11:08:37 AM

Not to be morbid, but I wonder if Captain Marvel and/or Avengers 4 will see a Furious 7 effect.

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#90875: Nov 12th 2018 at 11:12:56 AM

He’s already filmed a great deal of his cameos, but any film entering into actual production will no longer have him anymore.

I’m more sad by the fact he didn’t get live to see Avengers 4.

Edited by Shadao on Nov 12th 2018 at 11:13:34 AM


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