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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90751: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:51:38 AM

I don't think that it will be a flashback...though it might involve something from her past coming back to bite her.

But if I had a wish, I would want her to be on some sort of mission and in the end it turns out that it is scrull related.

Drakon69 The dragon archnerd from greece Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The dragon archnerd
#90752: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:01:51 AM

[up]Hmm that does sounds pretty cool but i am not sure about the skrull thing i mean not everything needs to be skrull related

Edited by Drakon69 on Nov 4th 2018 at 12:02:30 PM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90753: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:20:54 AM

It doesn't, but a spy movie would be the perfect place to reveal their presence.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#90754: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:27:18 AM

If a character I've actually grown to like and care about over the years turns out to be a Skrull, then I'll have a problem.

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Drakon69 The dragon archnerd from greece Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The dragon archnerd
#90755: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:46:43 AM

[up]Well it will be shocking and you will not see it coming but yeah ts not a good idea

DRAGON DRAGON
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90756: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:50:14 AM

[up][up] True...but the skrulls would hardly start at the top, right?

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 4th 2018 at 2:50:25 AM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#90757: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:16:36 PM

Y'know, Captain America randomly surviving in the ice for nearly 70 years always seemed a little implausible. If a Skrull scout were to find the wreckage, remove Cap's frozen remains, then take his place just as a search party has been subtly led to the location . . .

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90759: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:24:06 PM

...

Would it?

I mean, the entirety of Civil War was about Cap refusing to sign the Accords (for possibly good reasons) and the fact that others sided with him entirely because of that.

Ok, Bucky was in there as well, but how much easier would things have been if he'd signed earlier?

Now, why wouldn't a Skrull Cap take advantage of that: he knows if he says this is dumb that a lot of people will back him up. Then Bucky comes along and gives him a mission that's too important and forces Tony into a position of bad guy (along with the whole killed the Starks thing).

Now Earth's Mightiest Heroes are scattered all over instead of together, and we've seen how much of an issue that is with Thanos.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#90760: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:25:26 PM

yeah bit of a Gambit Roulette. Bucky being a Skrull would actually be more plausible: real Bucky died when he fell from that train in 1944, the Bucky we know is a Skrull that cooperated with/was brainwashed by HYDRA.

Because his life isn't miserable enough.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#90761: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:54:00 PM

I don't know. I mean, one of the best parts was after the Skrull reveal everybody went back to Civil War and decided that of Steve and Tony, one of them had to be a Skrull. There was no other explanation. But which? And then the big reveal was... neither. No brainwashing, not mind control, no shape-shifting spies; that situation got so out of hand purely because each of them was completely convinced the other was Wrong. And I personally think that's a lot more chilling than finding out one of them was an imposter.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#90762: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:32:22 PM

Agreed. My pick for Skrull all along would be Maria Hill. She’s memorable enough to matter, and she actually got into her role and helped out in Avengers and Winter Soldier, buuuuut...

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#90763: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:43:46 PM

I don't think anybody should be a Skrull.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90764: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:49:51 PM

Well, not NOW. But down the line, I certainly wouldn't mind some paranoia.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#90765: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:50:06 PM

Well they're either Skrulls,Doombots,or clones

take your pick

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#90766: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:53:14 PM

Well, not NOW. But down the line, I certainly wouldn't mind some paranoia.
No, no, that's what I'm saying: I think paranoia works perfectly fine for a Secret Invasion movie. But I still don't want any of the characters to be Skrulls — I do want them to suspect that they are all Skrulls, even blowing random things out of proportion, having paranoia consume them, but in the end, it's just that: paranoia.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#90767: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:55:28 PM

A good idea might be to have one of the Avengers be Skrulls, but have them have been replaced after Civil War (but before Infinity War of course, or maybe even Homecoming in Tony’s case). So someone we know and care about is a Skrull, leaving us wondering their motivations, but not invalidating everything they’ve done.

Except Hawkeye. I really like the idea of Hawkeye having been a Skrull the whole time: the big dramatic reveal being when we find the real Hawkeye, and he has no idea who half the cast is. That instantly tells us all we need to know about how insidiously the Skrulls have taken over their roles: we’ve met Hawkeye’s trusted boss, his closest friend and even his entire family, and none of them could ever tell the difference. It more than any other character we’ve met sells the “anyone could be a Skrull” angle without having to oversell it by having Skrulls he revealed out the wazoo.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 4th 2018 at 3:56:21 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90768: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:59:12 PM

At least one Avenger has to be a Skrull.

It a bit weak if none of them was infiltrated.

[up] Shit Hawkeye would be perfect as a Skrull & all that would be brutal as fuck. [tup]

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 4th 2018 at 4:00:41 AM

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#90769: Nov 4th 2018 at 4:01:10 PM

The problem is, having an Avenger be a skrull retroactively ruins one or more movie(s).

Hawkeye could work, since he doesn’t have his own movie and he’s kind of a weak nonentity of a character, but mehhh. I don’t want more Jeremy Renner, thanks.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#90770: Nov 4th 2018 at 4:31:58 PM

Hawkeye being a Skrull would open the door for Kate Bishop. I'd be down.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90771: Nov 4th 2018 at 5:01:09 PM

This both fascinates me and frustrates me.

It fascinates me because it does work.

It frustrates because it's just more shitting on Hawkeye, and I hate that.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90772: Nov 4th 2018 at 5:04:11 PM

Huh this could lead to an adaptation of Matt Fraction’s Hawkeye cause Clint could be too traumatized to go back to his family & instead chooses to live along to find himself.

Though they could adapt it with Kate instead.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#90773: Nov 4th 2018 at 6:58:05 PM

I imagine an Avenger would only become a Skrull very close to the events of a secret invasion film, so not to invalidate their established character arc.

Where as someone like Thunderbolt Ross could have been a Skrull all along.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90774: Nov 4th 2018 at 7:03:28 PM

You know, I want Tony to survive now, just for the joke of everyone immediately assuming he must be a Skrull and trying to shoot him.

Whether he is or not is irrelevant, but if not, I do want him to be annoyed at everyone pegging him as an invading alien.

One Strip! One Strip!
MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#90775: Nov 4th 2018 at 7:46:15 PM

Actually, I like the idea that none of them are Skrulls, but they all suspect each other. You could even lampshade it by having one of the enemies sneeringly point out that for the second time, the Avenger fell apart and failed because their own inability to trust each other (referencing the events of Civil War, where the team fell apart the first time).


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