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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
@Known Unknown Sorry, that was unclear. After the question about whether he started out in Ant-Man, the rest of that was just a proposal based on the current MCU, not a recap of a specific storyline.
Edited by Unsung on Oct 31st 2018 at 11:19:19 AM
The idea really works for this point in time, too. Even before Infinity War made everything on Earth ten times crazier.
From the governments of the worlds' point of view, the initial Avengers were a failure. Even if they never failed to get the job done eventually, people like Ross want superpowered heroes and agents that they can control. Ones who are going to play ball. So maybe, they want to create their own.
It's the same setup that makes Thunderbolts such a good idea right now too, but kind of a flipside. Rather than a bunch of villains taking advantage of the situation, a kind of coming of age idea with a bunch of young enhanced people being trained to fill the shoes of Tony Stark and Iron Man, amidst villains and veiled bureaucracy and possible corruption, would really work. Especially since the Avengers Academy crew is so likeable.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 31st 2018 at 10:23:04 AM
There are a lot of books that take the premise of "young, teenage superheroes" — New Warriors, Young Avengers, Runaways, Avengers Academy, Champions. After discarding New Warriors and Runaways (both already have shows or pilots at least), I think the MCU might go with Young Avengers as a film and possibly Avengers Academy as a show.
Edited by alliterator on Oct 31st 2018 at 10:25:15 AM
I figure a composite of the ideas would work. Initiative's setup, but Academy's characters and tone. Focusing more on the training and the "new blood" approach to heroism, less on the conscription allegories that surrounded comics Civil War and the occasional child soldier feels.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 31st 2018 at 10:28:35 AM
I'm prefer if they did a YA film (using Kate Bishop, Kid Loki, and America Chavez in some way) and an AA show (using any sort of Initiative/Academy combination).
Having a nebulous pool of minor villains (and supporting characters) who appear against multiple heroes in all sorts of contexts is one of by favorite things the Marvel comics does well that largely haven't been a thing in the MCU mostly, so I'm down with Taskmaster appearing as a sort of multi-franchise Enigmatic Minion.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 31st 2018 at 11:00:07 AM
Wow, this discussion run away from me...
so, regarding Marvel TV: Yes, I think a lot of people are too snobbish about it, but even if you think that Marvel TV is too disconnected from the movies, the streaming shows are clearly meant to be closer connected. They feature after all fairly highly prolific characters AND they are created under the umbrella of the movie studio and NOT by Marvel TV.
Regarding Young Avengers vs Avengers Academy: I don't think that it makes a difference. Marvel will just pick whatever title they like better and then do a mix of what they will see as the best storylines and/or characters.
Question: When Disney acquired Fox, they got the rights to the X-Men and the Fantastic Four. So far it has been confirmed that the X-Men will eventually join the MCU, without further details. But what about the Fantastic Four? Did someone in Marvel actually confirmed that they will also join the MCU? Just because they can does not mean they will, and from a non-comic book fan and purely business point of view it may be argued that the FF are not worth it, as they flopped in the three films they were featured in.
Ultimate Secret Wars
????? Nobody has confirmed that the X-men would join the MCU. The only thing which has been confirmed is that all the Marvel properties (and that will naturally include the Fantastic 4) will move under the creative control of Marvel Studios. Whatever Feige will do with them, well, let's wait and see.
At this point it's hard to see how the X-Men could join the MCU without a massive retcon or a full reboot.
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