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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#90276: Oct 18th 2018 at 12:02:10 PM

@Tobias-

I'd like that too.

Something I've been thinking about, particularly regarding that fan theory of Steve hooking up with Peggy in the past, is that while I don't really like the idea that Steve is basically a Death Seeker Blood Knight who cannot function in the present, I don't think it's just something unique to AOU, and I'm also mindful that Chris Evans has been interested in moving on.

So with those things in mind, I think that if Evans had been interested in staying on, you could have Steve quite easily settle into modern life, but since he isn't, I think a heroic death is the best result. And I don't really like the time travel "nasty in the pasty" idea or even that used as a vision of the afterlife because as much as Steve and Peggy are kind of soulmates, I don't really like the message that the only way Steve could be/could have been happy was in the past.

Of course, it's possible (and I'd like this), but unlikely, that Steve does live and ends up as director of SHIELD or something like that.

Incidentally, one thing I was thinking that would be a good way of avoiding potential Unfortunate Implications and be in line with how Bucky is T'chalah's buddy is have Sam use the OG shield (well, Tony's rebuilt version of it) and Bucky use a version of Steve's Wakandan shield. Sam would wear the suit he wears in the comics as Captain America and I imagine Bucky wearing something in between his comics' Captain America costume and the US Agent costume.

Edited by Hodor2 on Oct 18th 2018 at 2:02:33 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#90277: Oct 18th 2018 at 12:38:09 PM

The toyline for Avengers 4 has started leaking out and it has Pepper in the Rescue armor. Grain of salt since toylines do fabricate plot points all the time, but Paltrow did photograph herself in a mocap suit filming A4 scenes in a mocap suit, so make of it what you will.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#90278: Oct 18th 2018 at 12:38:15 PM

Have this weird image in my head of Captain America dying and then arriving at the Pearly white gates,for some reason Stan Lee is the one that lets him in

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90279: Oct 18th 2018 at 1:08:30 PM

While I still want my Bucky and Falcon Road Trip movie (or series), I don't see why Cap has to die first. In fact, I kind of think that it would be waaaaay funnier if they were still kind of competing for who is Cap's bestie. That would be way less funny if Cap were already dead.

[up][up] You know, you might want to put news like this in the Avengers 4 spoiler discussion. Even without the spoiler tags, I can make some educated guesses regarding what your post is about.

Edited by Swanpride on Oct 18th 2018 at 1:09:37 AM

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#90280: Oct 18th 2018 at 1:19:04 PM

I've been really against either Sam or Bucky taking up the "mantle" of Captain America because it inherently implies that their pre-existing superhero identities are less important (more so Sam with Falcon, I'd be more fine with Bucky casting aside Winter Soldier/White Wolf). I do, however, really like the idea of both of them taking aspects from Cap and incorporating them into what they already have. They can be a duo: Falcon America and Soldier America!

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 18th 2018 at 1:19:32 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#90281: Oct 18th 2018 at 1:34:42 PM

[up][up]Ya nailed it. Evaneline Lilly is secretly playing Doop.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90282: Oct 18th 2018 at 1:37:49 PM

[up][up] Frankly, they don't need to be anything America at all. Cap himself usually doesn't use the "America" part of his title. If Falcon wants to sound more patriotic, he could call himself eagle, but I really don't see the point there.

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#90283: Oct 18th 2018 at 2:17:29 PM

I've seen most fans settle for Captain Falcon for Sam.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#90284: Oct 18th 2018 at 2:18:17 PM

So he can do a Falcon Punch and take up racing

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#90285: Oct 19th 2018 at 7:12:40 AM

When a late show host asks if your upcoming movie is a prequel to an earlier movie wherein your character suffered a grisly fate...

You make up an excuse and beat it!

CONTEXT: Jimmy Kimmel tried to grill Tom Holland about whether Spider-Man: Far From Home takes place before Infinity War or after Avengers 4. It goes about as well as you may expect...

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#90286: Oct 19th 2018 at 7:15:29 AM

damn it Spider man you couldn't stop some purple freak from robbing bank!

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#90287: Oct 19th 2018 at 7:30:46 AM

At first I was like, "It is so weird to see Tom Holland suited up as Spider-Man after what happened in Infinity War."

And then I was like, "Bro. Bro. You didn't think Marvel Studios vaporized the actors, did you?"

And then I was all, "...it was a really good scene, okay?"

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#90288: Oct 19th 2018 at 7:34:26 AM

That was'nt spiderman,that was his clone

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#90290: Oct 19th 2018 at 9:52:12 AM

I would totally be down for it to eventually be revealed that the Peter in Far From Home is actually Ben and the movie is going on while OG Peter is still trying to get back to Earth, which would end up being the real meaning behind the title.

Edited by LordVatek on Oct 19th 2018 at 12:53:50 PM

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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#90291: Oct 19th 2018 at 11:48:11 AM

Didn’t Feige already make public that Far From Home takes place immediately after A4?

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#90292: Oct 19th 2018 at 12:20:43 PM

That would actually be pretty cool. Introduce Miles Warren as Peter's teacher and have the big reveal at the end that there are two Peters because Warren cloned him back to life.

Then our Peter can stay on the Avengers and keep turning in appearances in MCU Spider-Man movies while Ben Reilly goes off and does questionably-canon Sony movies for the Spider-Man universe they're trying to build.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 19th 2018 at 1:21:06 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#90294: Oct 19th 2018 at 12:34:31 PM

Be glad there's no Doom or we'd hear them hand wave every death as "Oh that,that was actually a Doombot"

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#90296: Oct 19th 2018 at 1:35:09 PM

Well, Tony is off planet. I'll bet he took his stash of rum with him.

Damn, I think I'd actually love a Marvel One Shot that was just Tony and Nebula having drunken adventures around the cosmos. It'd be like that one episode of Justice League where Green Lantern and Hawkgirl go smash up an alien bar.

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#90297: Oct 19th 2018 at 3:48:57 PM

Sorry to get off-topic, but it looks as though Marvel is hoping to get a female director for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/guardians_of_the_galaxy/vol_3/marvel-studios-rumored-to-be-looking-at-female-directors-for-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-a164222

Makes me wonder if whoever said they weren't starting production until 2021 got it wrong. Otherwise, why would they give it a working title and be looking for a director so soon?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90298: Oct 19th 2018 at 4:06:57 PM

[up] As I explained above, there is no way that they will be able to find a director in time to start shooting as planned. So they needed to find a time in which all their stars are available, which isn't that easy if you have three very popular actors in your cast.

And the earlier they settle on a director the better.

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#90299: Oct 19th 2018 at 5:01:38 PM

I know they can't do it on their original schedule, but there's no reason why they couldn't just push production back only 1 year and release the movie in 2021.

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XJTordecai Watch the seventh wave Since: Jun, 2013
Watch the seventh wave
#90300: Oct 19th 2018 at 5:51:38 PM

You know what, I'm down with a woman taking the helm for Got G 3. Would be cool to have a different sort of perspective.

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