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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#90076: Oct 8th 2018 at 12:17:47 PM

Will the microverse be afected by the snap? just some random tought in my head.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#90077: Oct 8th 2018 at 12:26:23 PM

According to Word of God, the snap affected plants and animals, so it should probably affect microbial life too.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#90078: Oct 8th 2018 at 12:27:44 PM

The plantlife in Wakanda sure got lucky on that draw, then. Didn't see so much as a blade of grass disappear.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#90079: Oct 8th 2018 at 5:52:34 PM

Pretty sure they retconned that fact in just to shut up people who thought Thanos was right.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90080: Oct 8th 2018 at 6:03:45 PM

There is no way to shut those people up.

Nothing will ever convince them that what Thanos did is actually wrong.

The reasons will vary, but they will always believe him to be right.

One Strip! One Strip!
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#90081: Oct 8th 2018 at 6:05:54 PM

For example:

Thanos is not Tony Stark

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90082: Oct 8th 2018 at 6:08:58 PM

Isn’t that a good thing? tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90083: Oct 8th 2018 at 6:26:18 PM

Well, Tony never means to cause his disasters, while Thanos actively wanted to kill a lot of people.

One Strip! One Strip!
Blurring One just might from one hill away to the regular Bigfoot jungle. Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
One just might
#90084: Oct 8th 2018 at 9:43:11 PM

Half of all the plants and animals always bothers me. Like, where do you start on half of the sponges and cnidarians? Plants have the same problem too.

If a chicken crosses the road and nobody else is around to see it, does the road move beneath the chicken instead?
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#90085: Oct 8th 2018 at 9:49:58 PM

I mean the whole thing is very difficult to establish exact rules for. How do you define a lifeform?

What rule is in place to ensure that eukaryotic organisms disappear entirely instead of just having half of their cells disappear? If it's shared genetics, then would identical twins or clones always disappear together because the snap considers them a single organism? If not, what happens to conjoined twins if one is marked for death but the other isn't? Do gut bacteria and other "foreign" cells always disappear when their host disappears? How about mitochondria? If Pando got marked for death would the entire forest just disappear all at once?

It also operates on a species-to-species basis (otherwise very few sentient lifeforms would disappear, the bulk of the casualties would just be quadrillions of microbes), so what happens to monospecimens, hybrids, or other lifeforms that blur the concept of "species"?

And that's just the biological conundrum. I've already asked how the snap decides what articles of clothing, weapons, and other personal effects disappear with their owner.

Obviously the answer is just that the snap uses some kind of fuzzy, intelligent logic here, but it is strange to consider.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Oct 8th 2018 at 12:57:36 PM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#90087: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:15:09 PM

So, James Gunn is writing (and possibly directing) Suicide Squad 2 and it looks like Dave Bautista is jumping ship and going with him:

https://twitter.com/DaveBautista/status/1049764974812430337

Can he do that? Will he end up breaking his contract? Does this effectively kill Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3?

Thoughts?

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90088: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:17:59 PM

Oh shit.

No no no.

Don't do this Dave. Don't do this!

DC doesn't deserve you!

One Strip! One Strip!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#90089: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:18:08 PM

People aren't obligated to stick to one company.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#90090: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:25:02 PM

Meh. Drax is easily my least favorite Guardian.

Also he can do what he wants.

Edited by LordVatek on Oct 9th 2018 at 5:31:56 AM

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#90091: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:25:35 PM

I have to command the man for his loyalty. [tup]

It is indeed a valorous trait.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#90092: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:26:06 PM

If all of Marvel's actors and directors jump ship to DC maybe DC's movies will become good. tongue[lol]

Edited by Eagal on Oct 9th 2018 at 2:25:46 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#90093: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:31:10 PM

Expressing enthusiasm for a friend and a desire to work with him again in the future is hardly an indication that he intends to “jump ship” or break contract.

Bautista already stated that he would only do that if Disney throws out Gunn’s script altogether, which they’ve already publicly stated will not happen.

Calm yo asses

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90094: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:33:48 PM

[up]

The tenseness in my gluteus has rescinded.

....Man, I hate the name of that trope. Who can even remember those words?

I don't know which of you came up with it, but you should must be an evil person. Just admit it.

One Strip! One Strip!
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#90095: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:34:15 PM

[up][up]My ass is perfectly calm, thank you

And also he was saying as recently as last month that he "doesn't know if (he) want(s) to work for Disney anymore".

So it's still very much up in the air

Edited by MrHellboy on Oct 9th 2018 at 4:33:44 AM

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#90097: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:47:13 PM

[up][up][up]Don't be hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobic.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#90098: Oct 9th 2018 at 3:05:26 PM

Lawrence Fishburne is actively in both the MCU and DCEU movies.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90099: Oct 9th 2018 at 3:15:49 PM

Eh...I actually think that the character of Drax is pretty played out. Even the Russos didn't really know what to do with him. So I don't mind either way. Frankly, the only guardians which are irreplaceable for me are Rocket and Groot.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#90100: Oct 9th 2018 at 3:29:22 PM

Well, Groot has died twice.

If he's so irreplaceable, maybe stop murdering him.

One Strip! One Strip!

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