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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#89902: Sep 30th 2018 at 7:28:13 PM

You know, I know that Namor crushing on Sue Storm is a relic of a different time when the writing for Sue was much more sexist, but I kind of want them to include some version of that in the MCU Fantastic 4. As long as Sue is still "Modern Badass Sue Storm", I don't see a problem with her being in a committed relationship with Reed while also commenting that the buff fish guy who flies around wearing nothing but a speedo and professing his love for her is kind of hot. Namor's kind of a weirdo anti-hero anyway.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#89903: Sep 30th 2018 at 7:48:14 PM

According to people who were watching the set of Far From Home: We got the fishbowl. Rejoice.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89904: Sep 30th 2018 at 7:49:02 PM

[up] Excellent. [tup][awesome]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#89907: Sep 30th 2018 at 10:27:08 PM

I love how whenever Santa ever shows up in a comic, hilarious awesomeness ensues.

I still love it that over in the DC universe he's canonically more powerful than Darkseid.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 30th 2018 at 10:29:32 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#89908: Sep 30th 2018 at 10:34:30 PM

If Ultron ever comes back, I want him to do this. Just because.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#89909: Sep 30th 2018 at 10:38:46 PM

Did that actually happen? That's not a fan comic or anything? Cause that's amazing. I just laughed for about twenty seconds straight.

It's the way the beard makes Ultron's... mouth opening... look like a demented lol face.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#89910: Sep 30th 2018 at 10:42:46 PM

It's from Marvel Holiday Special 2005 in a story called "Yes, Virginia, There's is a Santron." Santron is also defeated by an EMP cookie.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 30th 2018 at 10:44:46 AM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#89911: Sep 30th 2018 at 10:45:01 PM

Sant-Ultron. Come on, comic, get it right.

I want to see Multiple Santa done in live action.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#89912: Oct 1st 2018 at 1:48:52 AM

Really the only potential, emphasis on "potential" issue that I can see is that Jake Gyllenhaal is an actor who's very expressive and gets a lot of mileage out of his facial expressions/body language. So hiding his face behind an upside down fishbowl seems, iffy to me, unless they have a REALLY cool take on the character.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#89913: Oct 1st 2018 at 2:57:02 AM

Given they turned MCU!Vulture costume into one of the sexiest one I've seen in the franchise, I have a high expectation for this version.

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#89914: Oct 1st 2018 at 4:13:55 AM

This is in response to the previous's pages discussion of Doctor Doom

I suppose if you were going to introduce Doctor Doom already ruling over Latveria you could have a back story where he's a doctor sent there as part of humanitarian efforts but ended up as it's ruler because he's believes he's the most qualified to rule and takes advantage of the instability in the country .As to why they weren't involved in Civil War, you could justify their absence by saying that his efforts to seize control were on going and he only ended up in full control when the civil war between the heros was concluded

Also,point out that if Cap and Tony hadn't been at each other's throats they might have prevented Doom's rise to power

I'm not sure about the 'science and magic' aspect of Doom's powers though,though you could make the 'magic' all smoke and mirrors by Doom as part of his efforts to cow the population and the rest of the world into fearing him

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#89915: Oct 1st 2018 at 4:28:06 AM

Nah Doom being a legit powerful sorcery is part of what makes him such a threat. Smoke and mirrors is a lame copout imo, especially since Dr. Strange is now a thing in the MCU and (if Mysterio is anything like his comics counterpart), then we'll get the "smoke and mirrors" thing with him.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#89916: Oct 1st 2018 at 8:48:34 AM

It might work best if he doesn't do flashy "wave hands and make flashy lights appear" sorcery, but "draw this symbol and say this chant and a curse will happen" sorcery. That way it's less like an additional power he has and more an extension of his super-genius thing, having studied occult rituals just as much as he's studied the sciences.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#89917: Oct 1st 2018 at 12:03:49 PM

Same way Ock made for a decent Spider-Man ignoring the fact he stole Peter's body to do so & other stuff.

You mean aside from the fact that he tortured, maimed and killed?

As for Doom, there are far more than just 2 versions of him. He is one of the biggest cases of Depending on the Writer ever.

Edited by Forenperser on Oct 1st 2018 at 9:04:12 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89918: Oct 1st 2018 at 12:09:19 PM

[up] Pretty much yeah.

He made for an interesting anti-hero, especially creating his own army & outfitting them with mechs.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#89919: Oct 1st 2018 at 1:26:10 PM

That's an entirely different thing than being a decent Spider-Man however.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89920: Oct 1st 2018 at 1:39:16 PM

There are tons of different Spider-Man out there.

Many of them have their own way if doing things.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89921: Oct 1st 2018 at 2:25:03 PM

If they ain't being friendly in my neighbourhood, then they are doing it wrong.

So says Rob.

One Strip! One Strip!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#89922: Oct 2nd 2018 at 3:45:50 AM

Moviebob uploaded the structural Analysis part for The Avengers and Batman vs Superman separately.

Makes me laugh every time. Especially the "white Obama" part.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#89924: Oct 2nd 2018 at 7:07:38 AM

Well, there is a reason why I have pegged it for the big winner of the Superheroes movies yet to be release. I hope it succeeds...than Sony can focus on animation and leave the live action releases to Marvel Studios. (Would solve two problems at once, too, because it would keep their animation studio busy with something which isn't a soulless cash grab).

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#89925: Oct 3rd 2018 at 6:05:01 AM

Huh. If Far from home is going to take place after Infinity War, I find it funny that Mysterio will be the next Spiderman villain, as he would be the second villain being an expy (power wise, kinda) of a hero he met in a previous movie (Mysterio to Doctor Strange, Vulture to Falcon).

It would be interesting if they continue this trend for the third movie.


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