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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#89251: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:23:44 PM

Rewatching Infinity War on demand. You could make a drinking game out of how often Steve silently stares dramatically at someone and then... nods.

It's funny. I've always used "everybody gets one" as an unofficial catchphrase for Spidey even though he never actually says it, simply because it fits him so well as an idea. This movie shows it perfectly, where his role in the final battle is basically him hopping around saving everyone when things go to crap.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#89252: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:28:35 PM

Odin probably should have tossed the tesseract into the marianas trench

By the rules of a comic book universe something terrible would have happened somehow anyway (perhaps the creation of Monstros...) but it would at least been more of an effort at hiding it

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#89253: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:35:24 PM

[up]Well at worst Namor might've gotten it. But it's not like he'd know how the darn thing works anyway.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#89254: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:37:54 PM

He'd probably just use it to keep his skin hydrated

What a dingus

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#89255: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:39:13 PM

[up]That and stealing the occasional bagel. Which is still more of a positive use than anything Thanos did with it.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#89256: Sep 19th 2018 at 10:38:55 PM

As far as I can tell, Ms Marvel is in the same odd situation in which Spider-Man is...meaning that the kind of adventures she has might be better suited for TV, but her powers are impossible to pull off convincingly on a standard TV budget. I mean there is a reason why Marvel TV tends to stick with heroes which either fight well or are very strong, or have some sort of external power (glowing, teleporting, making the earth shake aso). And now that Disney will most likely their hands back on the Fantastic 4, it would make sense to figured out how make stretching look good first (Fox certainly never managed) and then use the programs they wrote for that for Ms Marvel.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#89257: Sep 19th 2018 at 11:00:26 PM

The new TV series plans confirm to me that Marvel is transitioning from being a comic company that also produces movies, to a movie company that also produces comics. Now they can sustain a regular amount of not just frequent content, but concurrent content.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#89258: Sep 19th 2018 at 11:08:06 PM

Well, comics haven't been a big money maker outside of the movies, TV shows and merch for a long time.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#89259: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:00:56 AM

"Thanos is Worst MCU Dad now. "

Ego "I put brain tumors because a woman is making me happy" said hello.

If anything consider how shitty thanos is make me think how much Gamora understand Peter wants for a worthy father figure.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
XJTordecai Watch the seventh wave Since: Jun, 2013
Watch the seventh wave
#89260: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:40:35 AM

Ego and Thanos are neck-and-neck for that title. Thanos at least is by far more earnest in his respect towards the likes of Tony and Wanda.

On my wave, passing oooooooon
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#89261: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:46:29 AM

I put Ego a hread because of the simple fact Thanos at least can be civil and really thinks better.

Ego on the other hand, kills peter mons because...she was making him happy, I always feel Ego plan was stupid and a weak part of the movie but that moment when he confess is crime is probably one of the best moment I ever saw in MCU.

Hell I almost cry a little when I hear the chain sounding and Peter atacking is father.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#89262: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:57:59 AM

Ego has killed more of his children than Thanos has done. But Ego never tortured his children.

A lot of MCU characters have bad dads or worry they might become bad dads.

I'd rate Thanos as ambiguously worse than Ego, then Yondu, then Odin, then the Vice president from Iron Man 3, then Hank Pym, then Howard Stark, finally T'chaka is least bad bad dad.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#89263: Sep 20th 2018 at 1:03:21 AM

At least Ego is honest that he only cares about himself and his base desire to not feel lonely. Thanos acts like he’s doing everybody a favor when he’s really just bitter that nobody on Titan wanted to consider his genocide plan.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#89264: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:01:01 AM

Thanos is clearly only in this to be proven right. I wonder what his diet is like that allows him to maintain 900 pounds of muscle. Guy probably could probably just diet and save lives.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89265: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:04:59 AM

He is pretty swole though so its clearly working for him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#89266: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:17:14 AM

Titan's gym culture is probably what used up all the food.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89267: Sep 20th 2018 at 4:45:50 AM

The amount of money he must have spent in horse protein is no joke.

And tryong to figure it out who is worse between Thanos and Ego for me is like trying to decide if dying via drawn out strangling is better than dying by being burned alive: you're still dead.

Also, why is the Vice-President in Iron Man 3 a bad father again? Bad guy, sure, but bad dad?

@Known Unknown: Mr Evans is just sick and tired of playing this, that much is clear.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 20th 2018 at 8:54:19 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#89268: Sep 20th 2018 at 5:18:46 AM

[up] Don't think so. His character was just put on the back-burner for Infinity War.

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#89269: Sep 20th 2018 at 5:59:01 AM

As far as I can tell, Ms Marvel is in the same odd situation in which Spider-Man is...meaning that the kind of adventures she has might be better suited for TV, but her powers are impossible to pull off convincingly on a standard TV budget.

To my knowledge, her powers have never even been pulled off convincingly on a film budget. It's hard to come up with effects for a stretchy person that don't look fake as shit. Having her constantly shout "EMBIGGEN" while doing it won't help with that, either.

But who knows? The Hulk looked fake as shit until the MCU took a crack at it, so maybe Marvel can actually pull it off. I'd certainly rather they try and fail than never try at all.

"Thanos is Worst MCU Dad now. "

Ego "I put brain tumors because a woman is making me happy" said hello.

See, that makes Ego a bad husband. It says nothing of his fathering skills.

The Cave of Child Corpses is why he's a bad father.

But Ego never tortured his children.

He mind-raped Quill to force him to go along with the plan. It was in response to being shot, but still.

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#89270: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:18:04 AM

I mean, killing someone's mother using a really prolonged way thus ensuring that he sees her suffer is really shitty parenting.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89271: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:31:45 AM

So I'm just gonna say fo r the record here that I am ever so slightly offended that someone potholed Dork Age in the funny moments page for Ragnarok in the part that references the Frog!Thor storyline.

That wasn't a dork age, that was one of the greatest shit ever! I still dream of the day when someone will finally have the balls to adapt that into at least a cartoon.

That's all, carry on.

Edit: Actually I have one more thing to say: Kamala's powerset could work wonders if they go with a absurdist comedy route in her debut movie, much like the aforementioned Kung Fu Hustle.

...look, I really like Kung Fu Hustle, alright!?

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 20th 2018 at 11:36:38 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#89272: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:55:12 AM

I think the big thing going against a Kamala movie is that she’s basically a modern Spider-Man in terms of niche and overall tone. Which would’ve been fine, except the MCU’s version of Spidey is arguably even more like Kamala than the comics version.

So an honest adaptation of her and her tone now runs the risk of seeming like a repeat of Homecoming, which is very unfair to her, but it is what it is. They could keep her as a supporting character in the Captain Marvel series (when it inevitably time shifts into the present day), but the tone they’re using for Carol isn’t a good fit for her either.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 20th 2018 at 7:58:44 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#89273: Sep 20th 2018 at 8:14:59 AM

[up][up] I'm right there with you

I first heard of frog Thor on lists of dork age comic book moments along with Cap Wolf but when I actually read the story it was AMAZING

You'd think comic book fans would be better about not dismissing something just because it seems bonkers on its face. I mean historically that's not the case but you'd think

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#89274: Sep 20th 2018 at 8:26:08 AM

Comics are bonkers as a general rule, anyway tongue.

Hell, Cap Wolf was one of the few good things to come out of the 90's for character, or for that matter, in general.

Also, mind if I rip you off on that dictionary-style profile page? It's genious!

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 20th 2018 at 12:31:07 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#89275: Sep 20th 2018 at 8:32:40 AM

Sure go ahead and also thanks

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 20th 2018 at 11:35:21 AM

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